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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Gitin 81
GITIN 81 - has been generously sponsored by Yeshayahu (Jason) Schmidt
(originally of West Hempstead, N.Y.), a talmid of Rabbi Kornfeld.
(a) According to Beis Shamai, if a man wrote a Get having in mind to divorce
his wife and then changed his mind, should he subsequently die, she is
forbidden to marry a Kohen. According to Beis Hillel - she is permitted.
(b) When Shmuel was asked what the Din will be in the case of a Kohen about
whom a rumor had spread that he had divorced his wife, he replied -
'Teitzei, ve'ha'Davar Tzarich Bedikah'.
(c) When he added 've'ha'Davar Tzarich Bedikah', he cannot have meant that
we first see whether it is not possible to stop the rumor - because Shmuel
was from Neherda'a, where this was not the practice.
(d) What he therefore must have meant was - that one needs to ascertain
whether in that town, 'Kesivah' incorporated Nesinah or not, because, if it
did, then the rumor implied that he had indeed divorced her. Otherwise, it
(a) If in that town, 'Kesivah' did incorporate Nesinah, then in spite of the
fact that it certainly refereed to Kesivah itself - we would nevertheless
take a strict line, seeing as it might well refer to Nesinah.
(b) In view of Rav Ashi, who maintains that one ignores a Kol that only
begins after a couple are married, we interpret ...
1. ... Shmuel's ruling 'Teitzei' - to mean 'Teitzei' from the second man
(and not from the first).
(c) We are not afraid that, by forbidding her to marry the second Kohen, one
was in effect, substantiating the Kol, resulting in the stigmatization of
any children that she bore to her first husband after the rumor began to
spread - precisely because she was not forbidden to their father (her first
2. ... the Mishnah in ha'Megaresh which does contend with a Kol - by a Kol
that began before they were married.
(d) They will ascribe the fact that she was forbidden to the second Kohen -
to her first husband having divorced her shortly before his death.
(a) Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan quoting Rebbi Yehudah contrasts
the early generations with the latter ones. 'The early generations' refers
1. ... Beis Shamai in our Mishnah ('Kasav Legaresh es Ishto') were stringent
with regard to Kedushas Yuchsin; 'the latter ones', to Rebbi Dosa, who
says - that the wife of a Kohen who was captured may eat Terumah. After all
he says, the Nochri did nothing more than play around with her (there is no
evidence that he actually raped her).
(b) This statement is based on a statement by Rebbi Yanai, who derives this
Halachah from the Pasuk "Bi'arti ha'Kodesh min ha'Bayis". Rebbi Yochanan
learns from the Pasuk "ve'Achlu bi'She'arecha ve'Save'u" - that when the
crops enter the Chatzer via the main gate, they are subject to Ma'aser no
less than when they enter the house via the front door.
2. ... those who used to bring their crops into the house through the front
door - in order to make the crops subject to Ma'asros; 'the latter ones' -
to those used to bring it in via the roofs and enclosures (through the
back-door so to speak) in order to make it exempt from Ma'asros.
(a) According to Beis Shamai, someone who stays with his ex-wife in a hotel
after divorcing her is not obligated to give her a new Get. Beis Hillel
disagree - because we are afraid that he performed Bi'ah with her with the
intention of making a fresh Kidushin.
(b) The Mishnah qualifies Beis Hillel's ruling, confining it to when they
had previously been married (and are therefore familiar with each other),
but not if they had only been betrothed.
(a) Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan establishes the Machlokes when
witnesses actually saw them being intimate, and the basis of their Machlokes
is - whether a person will perform an immoral act (when he can just as well
legalize it - Beis Shamai), or not (Beis Hillel).
(b) If they were not seen being intimate - then even Beis Hillel will agree
that the woman does not require a second Get.
(c) We refute this interpretation of our Mishnah from the Seifa which
differentiates between whether they had previously been married or just
betrothed. Because - if the Tana is speaking when they were seen being
intimate, what difference will it make whether they had previously been
married or not?
(d) We therefore establish ...
1. ... Rebbi Yochanan - like Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar, who establishes the
Machlokes Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel when the couple were seen being
2. ... our Mishnah - which must be speaking when they were seen making
Yichud, but not being intimate, and the basis of their Machlokes is whether
(we say 'Hein Hein Eidei Yichud, Hein Hein Eidei Bi'ah' (the witnesses of
Yichud are automatically witnesses that there was Bi'ah - Beis Hillel), or
not (Beis Shamai).
(a) According to the Tana of our Mishnah, if they were actually seen being
intimate, then even Beis Shamai will agree that she will require another
Get, because 'Hein Hein Eidei Yichud, Hein Hein Eidei Bi'ah'.
(b) But that is only if they had previously been married and were familiar
with each other. If they had only been betrothed, then we will not say 'Hein
Hein Eidei Yichud, Hein Hein Eidei Bi'ah'.
(a) The Tana of our Mishnah invalidates a Get Kere'ach, adding it to the
list in the opening Mishnah of the Perek ('Teitzei mi'Zeh u'mi'Zeh ... ').
A 'Get ...
1. ... Mekushar' - is a Get which the Sofer folds after each line or two,
and a witness signs on the back of each fold.
(b) Chazal instituted a Get Mekushar - for the sake of Kohanim, who due to a
tendency to be short-tempered, would often hastily divorce their wives, and
then, when their anger abated and they were sorry for what they had done,
the damage could not be undone. So Chazal instituted a Get Mekushar, which
takes a long time to write (giving their anger time to abate before the Get
2. ... Kere'ach' - is one with more folds than signatures.
(c) A Get Kere'ach is Pasul - because it appears as if not all the
designated witnesses signed.
(a) ben Nannes permits anybody to sign on a Get Kere'ach (in order to fill
in the missing signatures) - seeing as the Get is really Kasher anyway, and
it is only to avoid the suspicion that not all the designated witnesses
signed that they need to sign.
(b) Rebbi Akiva qualifies ben Nannes' ruling - permitting relatives (who are
basically Kasher witnesses) to sign, but not someone who is absolutely Pasul
le'Eidus (e.g. a thief or a slave).
(c) Rebbi Akiva's reason cannot be because ...
1. ... people might think that a slave is Kasher le'Eidus - because then why
do we permit a relative to sign? Why do we also not suspect that people will
assume him to be Kasher le'Eidus?
(d) The reason that Rebbi Akiva validates a relative to sign on a Get
Kere'ach, but not a slave or a thief is - because whereas in the latter
case, the Beis-Din will probably jump to the conclusion that the slave was
set free (on the basis of which they will permit him to marry a bas Yisrael
and to testify), and that the thief did Teshuvah (and is now eligible to
testify), whereas in the former case, everyone knows that a relative is a
relative (and permitting him to sign will not lead to any errors).
2. ... people might declare the slave Kasher to marry a bas Yisrael -
because then there would be no reason to forbid a thief to sign, since he is
permitted to marry a bas Yisrael anyway. And Rebbi Akiva *does*.
(a) Ben Nannes ...
1. ... argues with Rebbi Akiva, and permit anybody to sign on a Get
Kere'ach - as long as at least three Kasher witnesses have signed, and he is
the fourth, fifth, sixth or seventh.
(b) Despite the fact that three by a Get Kere'ach is like two by an ordinary
Get, this be acceptable - because the third witness on a Get Kere'ach signs
2. ... concedes to Rebbi Akiva that only a relative (who is Kasher
elsewhere) is eligible to sign on a Get Kere'ach - if there are only two
Kasher witnesses and he is the third.
(c) A Beraisa supports the previous statement of Rebbi Zeira quoting ... Rav
Ada bar Ahavah. Rav Yosef and Rav Papa amend the Lashon 'Ein Mashlimin Alav
Ela Karov' - to 'Ein Mashlimin Alav Ela Kasher' (in which case there is no
distinction between two Eidim on an ordinary Get and three on a Get
(a) Rebbi Yochanan restricts the number of non-Kasher witnesses who sign on
a Get Kere'ach to one, because if there were two - we are afraid that they
might subsequently validate the Get through them plus one of the Kasher
(b) Rav Ashi substantiates this from the Beraisa which we just alluded to -
which presents a list of Gitin Kerachim from seven witnesses down to three,
and in each case, only one of the signatures needed to be complemented by
one Pasul witness.