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Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) SPLITTING A PERSON'S WORDS (cont.)
(a) Contradiction (Rav Nachman) A dying person wrote a
document giving all his possessions to his slave, and
later retracted - he can retract giving the property, but
not the freedom.
2) A GET GIVEN WITHOUT A DECLARATION
1. He can retract giving the property, for this is the
law of a gift of a dying man;
(b) Answer (to question (a) and to Contradiction a:3 - Rav
Ashi): Even R. Meir (the Chachamim of R. Shimon) holds
that we split a person's words - he disqualified the Get
of freedom for a different reason;
2. He cannot retract the freedom, for the slave has
already been called a free man.
1. He holds, a Get of freedom in which the master
retains something is invalid.
(a) (Mishnah): If the Get is contested, it is validated
through its signatures.
3) SIMILARITIES OF GITIN OF DIVORCE AND FREEDOM
(b) Question: How many people contest the Get?
1. Suggestion: If only 1 - but R. Yochanan taught, 1
person who contests a Get is ignored!
(c) Answer #1: Rather, 2 contest it.
(d) Objection: Why does validation help - why believe the 2
witnesses that signed, more than the 2 contesting it!
(e) Answer #2: Rather, the husband contests the Get.
(f) (Mishnah): One that brings a Get from abroad and cannot
say 'it was written and signed in front of me' - if the
Get has signatures, we validate it through the
(a) This is one of 3 ways in which Gitin of divorce and of
freedom have the same law.
(b) (Gemara) Question: Why can't he say the declaration?
1. Suggestion: If because he is deaf - but a deaf
person cannot bring a Get!
(c) Answer (Rav Yosef): The case is, the messenger gave the
Get when he was healthy, and became deaf before he was
able to say the declaration.
(d) (Mishnah): Gitin of divorce and of freedom have the same
i. (Mishnah): Anyone can bring a Get, except for a
deaf person, lunatic or minor.
(e) (Beraisa): In 3 ways, Gitin of divorce and of freedom
have the same law:
1. One that brings a Get to or from Chutz La'aretz;
2. Any Get on which a Kusi signed is invalid, except
for Gitin of divorce and of freedom;
3. All documents that pass through courts of Nochrim,
even though they are signed by Nochrim, are valid,
except for Gitin of divorce and of freedom.
(f) We understand why Chachamim said 'in 3 respects' - to
exclude R. Meir's case.
4. R. Meir says, they are also the same in a fourth
respect: one who says 'Give this Get to my wife or
slave' - in either case, he can retract.
(g) Question: When R. Meir said 'in 4 respects' - what does
he come to exclude?
(h) Answer: The following case.
1. (Beraisa): Witnesses that do not know how to sign -
we scratch outlines of the letters of their names in
the parchment, and they fill them in with ink;
(i) Question: Are there really no other similarities of Gitin
of divorce and of freedom?
2. R. Shimon Ben Gamliel says, this only applies to
Gitin of divorce; by Gitin of freedom, or all other
documents, witnesses may only sign if they can read
3. Question: The first Tana never said that they must
be able to read!
4. Answer: The Beraisa is abbreviated; it reads as
i. (Beraisa): Witnesses that do not know how to
read - we read the document to them, and they
ii. Witnesses that do not know how to sign - we
scratch outlines ...
1. Question #1: One who says 'Give this Get to my wife,
and this Get to my slave', and the giver died - we
do not give them posthumously; 'Give 100 Zuz to
Peloni', - we give it posthumously;
(j) Answer: We are only listing similarities which do not
apply to other documents.
1. (Ravin): A dying man that said 'Write and give 100
Zuz to Peloni', we do not give it posthumously -
perhaps he only wanted to give the gift through a
document, and a document cannot be given
(k) Question #2A: Gitin of divorce and of freedom are similar
1. This is not difficult according to Rabah - we said
that they are the same regarding saying 'it was
written and signed in front of me', which is because
they must be written Lishmah!
(l) Question #2B: Both according to Rabah and Rava, why did
the Beraisa omit saying that neither can be written while
attached to the ground?
2. It is difficult according to Rava.
(m) Answer (To 2A and 2B): We are only listing Rabbinically
disqualified Gets, not those invalid mid'Oraisa.
(n) Objection But Gitin signed in the courts of non-Jews are
invalid mid'Oraisa, and this was taught!
(o) Answer: The case is, there were Jewish witnesses that saw
them handed over, according to R. Elazar, who says that a
Get is empowered by the witnesses that saw it given.
(Therefore, they are only invalid mid'Rabanan.)