REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chulin 141
(a) A certain Talmid-Chacham asked Rava why, based on the Pasuk "Efrochim O
Beitzim", our Mishnah does not exempt a nest containing only one egg from
the Mitzvah of Shilu'ach.
What did he suggest that the Tana should then
learn from "Kan"?
(b) What did Rava answer? What could the Pasuk then have dispensed with?
(a) What does our Mishnah appear to learn from the double Lashon "Shale'ach
(b) What does the Tana say about someone who ...
(c) A certain Talmid-Chacham asked Rava why "Shale'ach Teshalach" does not
imply twice and no more.
- ... wishes to take the mother and send away the babies?
- ... returns the babies or the eggs to the nest and then the mother returns to the nest?
What did Rava reply?
(d) So what do we learn from "Teshalach"? What is an example of a D'var
(a) Rebbi Aba b'rei de'Rav Yosef bar Rava asked Rav Kahana why we need a
special Pasuk to include a D'var Mitzvah in the Din of Shilu'ach ha'Kein.
What did he mean by that? What makes the Pasuk seemingly superfluous?
(b) Rav Kahana answered him that we need the Pasuk for where one has already
taken the mother.
How does this answer the Kashya?
(c) This answer is not valid however, according to all opinions in La'av
What is a 'La'av ha'Nitak la'Asei'?
(d) In fact, it is only valid according to those who hold 'Kiymo, ve'Lo
What does this mean?
(a) Why will the Kashya not be answered according to those who hold 'Bitlo,
(b) And what's more, according to Rebbi Yehudah, who holds 'Shale'ach
Me'ikara Mashma', it is not answered at all.
(a) How does Mar bar Rav Ashi therefore amend the answer? How is it possible
to take the mother without transgressing the La'av?
(b) And the Torah writes "Teshalach" to nevertheless forbid using the bird
for the Mitzvah of Taharas Metzora.
The Kashya remains however, why would
we even think that the Asei of Taharas Metzora might override that of
(c) What has the Mitzvah of Taharas Metzora to do with Shalom?
(d) What precedent do we have for Shalom permitting what would otherwise be
(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah, once someone has taken the
mother bird, he receives Malkos and is no longer obligated to send it away
(as we just learned).
What do the Chachamim say?
(b) What K'lal do they state?
(c) Rebbi Aba bar Mamal asks whether Rebbi Yehudah's reason is as we just
explained it, or maybe there is another reason behind his ruling.
(a) Rebbi Aba bar Mamal tries to resolve his She'eilah with a Beraisa that
discusses Ganav and Gazlan.
Answers to questions
Which Asei pertains to Ganav and Gazlan?
(b) What does he therefore try to prove, via the Beraisa, where Rebbi
Yehudah rules that Ganav and Gazlan are subject to Malkos?
(c) On what grounds does Rebbi Zeira discount the Beraisa the way it stands?
(d) How does he therefore amend it?
(a) The Torah in Kedoshim inserts the La'av of "Lo Sashuv Lekachto"
(Shikchah) and that of "Lo Sechaleh" (Pe'ah).
Which Asei does the Pasuk
(b) Rebbi Yehudah rules in a Beraisa (cited by Rebbi Chiya and Rebbi Oshaya)
that someone who contravenes the two La'avin receives Malkos.
How do we
repudiate the proof from there that Rebbi Yehudah does not hold of the P'tur
of 'La'av ha'Nitak la'Asei'? How might he establishing the Asei of
(c) Ravina cites a third Beraisa, where Rebbi Yehudah discusses the La'av of
"Lo Sosiru Mimenu ad Boker".
Which Asei accompanies the La'av?
(d) What does Ravina finally prove from Rebbi Yehudah there, who exempts
someone who transgresses them from Malkos?
(a) Rav Idi tries to support Ravina from our Mishnah, where Rebbi Yehudah
says 'Lokeh ve'Eino Meshale'ach'.
What ought he to say if he held 'La'av
ha'Nitak la'Asei, Lokin Alav'?
(b) Rav Ashi refutes Rav Idi's proof however.
How might one interpret the
'Eino Meshale'ach' of Rebbi Yehudah?
(c) To what extent, according to Rav Yehudah, must one send the mother bird
(d) What is he permitted to do once that has happened?
(a) According to our initial understanding of Rav Huna, he requires that one
sends the mother bird away by its legs.
What does Rav Yehudah say?
(b) Rav Huna learns from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "Meshalchei Regel ha'Shor
What is Rav Yehudah's source (see Maharsha)?
(c) What problem do we have with Rav Huna's source, according to this
(d) So what does ...
- ... Rav Huna really mean when he says 'be'Raglehah'?
- ... Rav Yehudah mean when he says 'bi'Chanfehah'?
(a) When someone clipped the wings of the mother bird before sending it
away, Rav Yehudah gave him Malkos.
What did he subsequently make him do?
(b) What problem do we have with this, according to ...
(c) We conclude that Rav Yehudah rules like the Rabbanan.
- ... Rebbi Yehudah?
- ... the Rabbanan?
Then why did he
give him Malkos?
(d) What does Makas Mardus entail?
(a) What did Rava ...
(b) What did he do when, following his ruling, the questioner sent the
mother bird away?
- ... think to himself when someone asked him about the Mitzvah of Shilu'ach ha'Kein regarding a Teimah (a Tahor bird)?
- ... assume to justify the She'eilah?
(c) What problem do we have with that? How ought Rava to have taken his cue
from his father-in-law, Rav Chisda?
(d) How do we justify Rava's actions, in spite of Rav Chisda?
(a) The Beraisa includes doves of a dovecote and doves in an attic, in the
Din of Shilu'ach.
What else does the Tana say with regard to someone else
(b) What problem do we have with the earlier statement, based on a ruling of
Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina? What does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina say about
a Chatzer acquiring?
(c) What distinction does Rava draw between Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina's
Din and the obligation to send the mother away, that answers the Kashya?
(a) In the first Lashon, 'Asurin Mishum Gezel' therefore refers to the
What does the second Lashon hold? Why is the egg then Asur?
(b) Why, according to the second Lashon, is there not even an Isur Darkei
Shalom on the mother?
(c) Alternatively, following a statement of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, we
establish the Beraisa even after the egg fell into the Chatzer.
Rav Yehudah Amar Rav say, that will explain why it is not called Mezuman?
(d) Why does his Chatzer not acquire the egg?
(a) Why can the Seifa ('va'Asuros ... Mishum Darkei Shalom') not be speaking
after the owner already sent the mother bird away?
Answers to questions
(b) What is then the problem with establishing it before he did so?
(c) And we answer that 'Asuros Mishum Gezel' refers to a Katan (who is not
Since when is a Katan subject to Darkei Shalom?
(d) Why do we not establish the Beraisa when even a Gadol took the eggs from
under the chicken (in spite of Rav Yehudah Amar Rav)?