REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
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(a) How do we reconcile Rav Huna, who just forbade a kid that one roasted
together with its Cheilev, with Rabah bar bar Chanah, who testified that
when the community of Ma'on sent Rebbi Yochanan a similar She'eilah, he
permitted it ('Kolef ve'Ochel ad she'Magi'a le'Chelbo')?
(b) According to Rav Huna bar Yehudah, the case that came before Rebbi
Yochanan was not that of a kid goat, but of a kidney that was roasted
together with its Cheilev.
What makes that 'better' than the case of a kid
(a) Whereas according to Ravin bar Rav Ada, the She'eilah that came before
Rebbi Yochanan involved Kilchis that was cooked in a pot together with meat.
What was the She'eilah? What is Kilchis?
(b) He ruled that a Nochri baker should taste it.
On what condition would
the Nochri baker be believed?
(c) What is the significance of the fact that he was a baker (see Tosfos DH
(a) What does the Beraisa say about ...
How does Rava reconcile Chazal's three seemingly contradictory rulings
'be'Ta'ama', 'bi'Kefeila', 'be'Shishim'? Under which conditions did they say
(b) How did Rava interpret the Tana's latter ruling (with regard to a pot in
which one cooked Terumah for a Kohen)?
- ... a pot in which one cooked meat, or one in which one cooked Terumah for a Kohen?
- ... a case where, in spite of the prohibition, one did?
(c) What problem did he initially have with the earlier ruling (with regard
to a pot in which one cooked first meat and then milk)?
(d) How did he resolve the problem?
Answers to questions
- ... 'be'Ta'ama'?
- ... 'bi'Kefeila'?
- ... 'be'Shishim'?
(a) Ravina forbade the thighs that were salted in the Resh Galusa's house
together with their Gid ha'Nasheh.
What did Rav Acha (some add b'rei
(b) It seems that Rav Acha's source was a statement of Shmuel concerning
'Meli'ach' and 'Kavush'.
What is the difference between the two?
(c) What did Shmuel say about them?
(a) How did Ravina interpret 'heated' ('Rose'ach')?
(b) How did Rav Acha bar Rav prove him wrong?
(c) What makes roasted more lenient than cooked?
(d) When the Resh Galusa sent the case to Mar bar Rav Ashi, what did he
quote his father as saying?
(a) Rebbi Chanina maintains that when reckoning 'be'Shishim', one includes
in the sixty, the gravy, the sediment, the pieces of meat and the pot.
What might he have meant by 'the pot'?
(b) Like which interpretation ought we to rule?
(c) Why, in fact, do we not rule like either of them?
(a) As we already learned, our Mishnah considers a thigh cooked together
with its Gid like meat in turnip (taste-wise).
What does Rebbi Yochanan
say about all other Isurin that are cooked together with Isur?
(b) Why the difference?
(c) Why do we not simply ...
(d) Rebbi Aba asked Abaye why we do not reckon the mixture like meat cooked
together with peppers or spices.
- ... taste the mixture or give it to a Nochri to taste?
- ... reckon 'be'Shishim'?
What if we did?
(e) What did Abaye answer him?
(a) What does Rav Nachman mean when he rules ...
(b) What third ruling does he add to that?
- ... 'K'chal be'Shishim'? What is 'K'chal'?
- ... 'Beitzah be'Shishim'?
(c) Why does he exclude the Gid in the Shishim, but include the K'chal?
(d) What does he say in this regard, regarding 'Beitzah be'Shishim'?
(a) Rebbi Yitzchak b'rei de'Rav Mesharshaya adds that the K'chal itself is
Why is that?
(b) What does he add to that regarding where the K'chal fell into another
pot of meat?
(c) What She'eilah did Rav Ashi ask Rav Kahana, with regard to that ruling?
(d) Why did Rav Kahana take for granted the first side of the She'eilah?
(a) Based on what we just learned, what makes us suggest that if the K'chal
subsequently falls into a second pot of meat, the pot ought to be permitted?
Answers to questions
(b) Then why is it in fact, permitted?