REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chulin 73
CHULIN 73 (14 Nisan) - dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Chayah bas Aryeh Leib Shpira
(nee Sole), on the day of her Yahrzeit.
(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'va'Chachamim Omrim, Maga Tereifah Shechutah',
implying that a Tereifah Shechutah is Metamei.
How does Shmuel's father
reconcile this with the fact that it is not?
(b) How did Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa, according to Rava (or Kadi)'s
emendment, counter the Rabanan ...
(c) And how did the Rabanan counter Rebbi Meir from the opening Mishnah in
the Perek 'Chotech min ha'Ubar she'be'Me'eha'?
- ... who declared Tahor a limb (that the fetus stuck out) due to the Shechitah of its mother?
- ... when they replied that from the Shechitah of a Tereifah we can learn that sometimes a Shechitah disposes of the Tum'ah, without permitting the animal to be eaten?
(d) All this is based on Rava's emendment of the Beraisa. What proof do we
have that Rava's text is correct?
(a) What does Resh Lakish mean when he states that just as Rebbi Meir and
the Rabanan argue over 'Ubrin', so too, do they argue over Eivarin?
(b) What does Rebbi Yochanan say?
(c) How does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina explain Rebbi Yochanan? What makes
Eivarin worse than Ubrin, according to the Rabanan?
(a) We query the current version of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yochanan and
Resh Lakish however, from the Beraisa that we cited earlier, where Rebbi
Meir said 'Lo, Im Tiharah Shechitas Tereifah Osah *ve'es ha'Eiver
ha'Meduldal bah*, Davar she'Gufah ... '.
Answers to questions
How will Resh Lakish explain the
Beraisa (seeing as, according to him, Rebbi Meir does not permit either the
Ubar or the Eiver ha'Meduldal)?
(b) What is the problem with this according to Rebbi Yochanan?
(c) We therefore reword the Machlokes.
We cite Resh Lakish like we did
before, but how do we now cite Rebbi Yochanan?
(d) What reason does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina now give to explain why
Rebbi Meir is more lenient in the case of Eiver than he is by Ubar?
(a) Everyone agrees, says Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef Amar Rebbi Yochanan, that
'Misah Osah Nipul ve'Ein Shechitah Osah Nipul'.
Why can Rebbi Yochanan not
be referring to the case of Ubar?
(b) What does he mean when he says 'Misah Osah Nipul?
(c) What are the ramifications of this ruling?
(d) What point is Rebbi Yochanan making?
(a) Rebbi Meir learns in a Mishnah in 'ha'Or ve'ha'Rotav' (in connection
with an animal with a loose limb and loose flesh) that should the animal
die, the flesh requires Hechsher Lekabel Tum'ah.
What does he say about the
(b) If the Tana held 'Ein Misah Osah Nipul, what would be the Din regarding
(c) Who argues with Rebbi Meir in this point?
- ... Hechsher?
- ... Tum'ah? Under what heading would it fall?
(a) In another Mishnah there, Rebbi Meir says (regarding the same animal)
'Nishchetah Beheimah, Huchsheru be'Dameha'.
What does that prove?
(b) On what grounds does Rebbi Shimon disagree?
(c) What is now the Kashya on Rebbi Yochanan from both of the above
(d) How do we establish 'Huchsheru' in answer to the second Kashya?
(a) How do we reconcile the previous answer with the fact that 'Huchsheru'
is written in the plural?
(b) Why does the Tana find it necessary to mention Basar that comes off the
Eiver ha'Meduldal? Why might we otherwise have thought that it does not
require Hechsher, even though Basar from the Shechted animal does?
(a) Why did Rav Yosef advocate following the opinion of Rav Yitzchak bar
Yosef in Rebbi Yochanan?
Answers to questions
(b) Why did he find it necessary to say this? What was he coming to
(c) The Beraisa forbids an Eiver ha'Meduldal and Basar ha'Meduldalin of a
Beheimah, Chayah or Of that one subsequently Shechted, based on the Pasuk in
Mishpatim "u'Basar ba'Sadeh Tereifah Li Sochelu".
What does Rabah bar bar
Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan comment on that?