REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chulin 52
CHULIN 51-54 - sponsored by Dr. Lindsay A. Rosenwald of Lawrence NY, in
honor of his father, David ben Aharon ha'Levy Rosenwald of blessed memory.
(a) Rav Ashi permits a bird that gets caught in a glue-trap and falls to the
What is a glue-trap?
(b) What does Ameimar rule in such a case?
(c) They both agree that if only one wing of the bird is stuck, it is
Why is that?
(d) Then what is the basis of their Machlokes?
(a) What does the Ba'al Halachos Gedolos say about all the cases that
(b) Why do we not agree with him?
(c) What should one nevertheless do, when making the necessary Bedikah?
(a) Our Mishnah lists 'Nishtabru Rov Tzal'osehah' among the Tereifos.
does 'Rov Tzal'osehah' comprise?
(b) Both Rabah bar bar Chanah and Rebbi Yochanan qualify our Mishnah.
According to ...
(c) What distinction does Ula ben Zakai draw between where the ribs are
merely broken or where they have been torn out?
- ... Rabah bar bar Chanah, whereabouts must the fracture take place for the animal to be Tereifah?
- ... Rebbi Yochanan, which ribs must the fracture involve?
(d) What does Rebbi Yochanan say?
(a) What does Rav say about one rib that has been torn out together with its
(b) What was Rav's response, when Rav Kahana and Rav Asi asked him what the
Din will be if the two corresonding ribs (one on either side) have been torn
(c) We counter that seeing as, according to Rav, the rib together with its
vertebra is missing, it is a Gistera according to him, too.
Why is that?
(d) How do we answer that Kashya?
(a) We extrapolate from the previous statement that Rav Kahana and Rav Asi
are speaking when the two ribs were torn out without the vertebrae.
we know that?
(b) How do we reconcile Rav Kahana and Rav Asi with Ula ben Zakai, who only
considers the animal Tereifah if the majority of ribs are torn out (though
he is talking about a majority on one side), and not just two?
(c) What do we then ask on Rav Asi and Rav Kahana from Rebbi Yochanan?
(d) What do we mean when we answer by establishing Rav Kahana and Rav Asi by
Buchna va'Asisa (and Rebbi Yochanan by Buchna be'Lo Asisa)?
(a) What problem do we have with establishing Rav Kahana and Rav Asi when
the ribs were torn out together with half the vertebrae?
Answers to questions
(b) If, as we reply, they asked Rav the She'eilah without having heard his
opinion, why did they ask about two ribs that are torn out, and not one?
(c) Why can we not say the same now that they asked him about two? If he
would answer Tereifah, they would still need to ask him about one?
(d) Why would he not also get excited in the case of one, to indicate that
even two is Kasher, so why ask about one?
(e) But they did ask about two, yet Rav did not get excited?
(a) What does Rabah bar Rav Shilo ... Amar Shmuel say about a rib that is
torn out without the vertebra, a skull the majority of which is crushed, and
the flesh that covers the majority of the Keres?
(b) We already cited the Machlokes regarding a Shedrah in an Ohel ha'Meis
that is missing one vertebra, which Beis Shamai declares Tamei, and Beis
What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav say regarding the same case
in a live animal?
(c) How so we now reconcile this with Shmuel's previous ruling (which
considers one missing rib a Tereifah, but) which does not mention a missing
(d) How is it possible for an animal to have a missing vertebra, yet all its
ribs are intact? What are 'Kafli'?
(e) Rav Oshaya asked why the above Machlokes between Beis Shamai and Beis
Hillel (regarding Tereifus) is not listed in Iduyos together with all the
cases where Beis Hillel is Machmir, and Beis Shamai, Meikel.
What did Rava
(a) Shmuel's second ruling concerns a skull, the majority of which is
What She'eilah does Rebbi Yirmiyah ask? What might 'the majority'
(b) What is the outcome of the She'eilah?
(a) In his third ruling, Shmuel renders Tereifah an animal whose flesh that
covers the majority of the Keres is defected. What She'eilah does Rav Ashi
ask? What defect might Shmuel be referring to?
(b) We try to resolve the She'eilah from Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina's
interpretation of our Mishnah 'O she'Nikra Rov Chitzonah'.
How did Rebbi
Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina explain 'Rov Chitzonah'?
(c) On what basis do we refute this proof? What do we mean when we say 'Midi
Hu Ta'ama Ela li'Shmuel'?
(d) What did Rebbi Ya'akov bar Nachmeini cite Shmuel as saying?
(a) What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav comment on 'Derusas ha'Ze'ev' and
(b) How do we refute the suggestion that ...
(c) How do we counter the argument that the Tana Kama cannot disagree with
Rebbi Yehudah, since Rebbi Binyamin bar Yefes Amar Rebbi Ila'a (or Rebbi
Elazar) specifically states that Rebbi Yehudah comes to explain the Tana
Kama, and not to argue with him?
- ... Rav Yehudah means to preclude a cat (whose poison is too weak to render an animal Tereifah)?
- ... the Tana mentions 'Ze'ev' to teach us that a wolf is Doreis even a large animal?
(a) So why does the Tana in our Mishnah mention 'Derusas ha'Ze'ev'
(according to Rav Yehudah Amar Rav)? What is it coming to teach us?
(b) Alternatively, Rav Yehudah comes to preclude a cat (from rendering a
small animal a Tereifah).
How do we then answer the Kashya that we asked
earlier, why we would not already know this from 'Derusas ha'Ze'ev' in our
(a) Rav Chisda holds that a cat and a marten (Nemiyah) can be Doreis
kid-goats and lambs.
How do we reconcile this with 'Derusas ha'Ze'ev' of
our Mishnah (according to what we just said)?
(b) What does he say about 'Derusas Chuldah (a weasel)'?
(c) We ask on Rav Chisda from a Beraisa 'Derusas Chasul, Netz u'Nemiyah ad
What does this imply, that poses a Kashya on Rav
(d) How do we reconcile this Beraisa with 'Derusas ha'Netz' of our Mishnah?
(a) We answer the Kashya on Rav Chisda by establishing him like B'rivi in
How does B'rivi qualify the ruling that there is no
Derusah by a Chasul?
(b) How does this explain Rav Chisda? Under which circumstances does he hold
that there is?
(c) What happened in the case of the cat chasing a chicken in Rav Kahana's
house? What did they subsequently discover on the door?
(d) How do we reconcile this with Rav Chisda, seeing as there was nobody
trying to save the chicken?
(e) And how will the Rabbanan who argue with B'rivi (who maintain that even
if there is someone saving the animal, there is no Din D'rusah by a cat)
explain the five drops of blood on the door?
(a) Others establish the initial Beraisa 'Derusas Chasul ... ad she'Tinakev
le'Chalal', like Berivi.
Answers to questions
Under what circumstances is the Tana then
(b) How will B'rivi explain the five drops of blood on the door, in the case
of the cat chasing a chicken in Rav Kahana's house?
(c) Like whom does Rav Chisda then hold? Under which circumstances is *he*
(d) According to Rav Chisda then, why does our Mishnah specifically mention