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CHULIN 128-130 - dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in
loving memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger.
Irving Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner and
is dearly missed by all who knew him. His Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan (which
coincides with the study of Chulin 128 this year).
***** PEREK HA'ZERO'A *****
1) "MATANOS" APPLY ONLY TO "CHULIN"
(a) (Unspecified 'Matanos' refers to the Zero'a, Lechayim and
Kevah (upper two bones of the foreleg, the jaw and
stomach; one who slaughters a Chulin Behemah gives them
to a Kohen).
(b) (Mishnah): Zero'a, Lechayim and Kevah apply in Eretz
Yisrael and Chutz la'Aretz, whether or not the Mikdash
stands, to Chulin but not to Kodshim.
(c) Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should obligate Matanos from
1. Chazeh v'Shok (chest and thigh) of Chulin are not
given to Kohanim, but Matanos are - Chazeh v'Shok of
Kodshim are given to Kohanim, all the more so
Matanos should be given!
(d) Rejection: "Va'Eten Osam" - [from Shelamim,] Kohanim
receive only Chazeh v'Shok.
(e) If an animal with a permanent blemish was made Hekdesh,
after it is redeemed the following apply:
1. Kedushas Bechor (if it bears a firstborn male);
Matanos; one may shear it and work with it; its
offspring and milk are permitted;
(f) If an animal got a permanent blemish only *after* it was
Hukdash (even if it had a temporary blemish beforehand),
after it is redeemed:
2. Before redemption, one who slaughters it outside (of
the Mikdash) is exempt; its Temurah is not Kodesh;
if it dies, we redeem it.
3. These apply to all Korbanos except for Bechor and
1. Kedushas Bechor does not apply; it is exempt from
Matanos; one may not shear it nor work with it; its
offspring and milk are forbidden;
(g) (Gemara) Inference: The Torah had to write "Osam",
otherwise, Matanos would apply to Kodshim.
2. Before redemption, one who slaughters it outside is
liable; its Temurah is Kodesh; if it dies, we bury
it (it may not be redeemed).
(h) Question: We cannot learn from Chulin, for Kedushas
Bechor applies to Chulin!
(i) Answer: We learn from Chulin males (there is no Kedushah
to the firstborn of a male animal).
(j) Question: We cannot learn from Chulin males, for Reishis
ha'Gez applies to them!
(k) Answer: We learn from male goats, Reishis ha'Gez does not
apply to them.
(l) Question: We cannot learn from male goats, for Ma'aser
applies to them!
(m) Answer: We learn from old (male goats - Ma'aser only
applies to first year animals).
(n) Question: We cannot learn from old animals, for Ma'aser
once applied to them!
(o) Answer: We learn from a bought animal or an animal whose
mother died at birth (Ma'aser does not apply to them).
(p) Question: We cannot learn from them, for Ma'aser applies
to their species!
(q) Answer: Ma'aser also applies to the same species as
(r) Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that Chazeh
v'Shok of Chulin are given to Kohanim:
1. Matanos do not apply to Kodshim, but Chazeh v'Shok
do - Matanos apply to Chulin, all the more so Chazeh
(s) Rejection: "v'Zeh Yiheyeh Mishpat ha'Kohanim" - only
Matanos apply to Chulin, not Chazeh v'Shok.
(t) Objection: Why is a verse needed? Chazeh v'Shok could not
apply to Chulin, for Tenufah (waving) is required;
1. Tenufah cannot be done outside the Mikdash - it must
be "Lifnei Hash-m"!
2) ONE WHO DAMAGES "MATANOS KEHUNAH"
2. Tenufah cannot be done in the Mikdash - it is
forbidden to bring Chulin into the Mikdash (Rashi -
unless needed for the Avodah; Tosfos - in a way
similar to Avodah).
(u) Answer: Rather, the verse teaches Rav Chisda's law.
1. (Rav Chisda): If one damages or eats Matanos Kehunah
(things that must be given to Kohanim), he is
(a) Question: What is Rav Chisda's reason?
3) WHEN "KEDUSHAS TERUMAH" BEGINS
(b) Answer #1: He learns from "V'Zeh Yihyeh Mishpat
ha'Kohanim" (intact Matanos Kehunah are given, not
compensation for damaging them).
(c) Answer #2: No one can claim compensation (the damager can
say, I will pay a different Kohen).
(d) Question (Beraisa): "v'Zeh Yiheyeh Mishpat ha'Kohanim" -
this teaches that Beis Din enforces the Matanos.
1. Suggestion: This means that Beis Din makes a damager
pay (to the first Kohen who claims from him)!
(e) Answer: No, it means that Beis Din forces a Yisrael to
give the Matanos to a learned Kohen.
1. (Rav Shmuel bar Nachmani): We do not give Matanos to
an ignoramus Kohen - "Lema'an Yechezku b'Soras
(f) Question (Beraisa - R. Yehudah ben Beseira): "Mishpat" -
this teaches that Beis Din enforces the Matanos.
1. Suggestion: Perhaps Beis Din enforces even Chazeh
(g) Answer: The case is, the Kohen received them (and then a
Yisrael damaged them).
2. Rejection: "v'Zeh" (only the Matanos).
3. Question: Regarding what does Beis Din enforce the
i. Suggestion: They make a Yisrael give to a
4. Answer: Rather, Beis Din makes a damager pay.
ii. Rejection: That also applies to Chazeh v'Shok!
(h) Question: If he already received them, obviously one who
damages them is liable!
(i) Answer: The case is, he received the animal before the
Matanos were separated - the Tana teaches that Matanos
are considered separated even before they are separated.
(j) Question (Mishnah - R. Eliezer): If a rich person away
from home has no money, he may take Matanos Aniyim
(Leket, Shichchah and Pei'ah, which are left for the
poor); when he gets home, he must pay.
(k) Answer (Rav Chisda): This is Midas Chasidus (it is beyond
the letter of the law).
(l) Objection #1 (Rava): "He must pay" connotes letter of the
law, not Midas Chasidus!
(m) Objection #2 (Rava): Rav Chisda would not need to answer
for R. Eliezer, the Halachah follows Chachamim!
(n) (Rava): Rather, the question was from Chachamim (in that
(o) Question (Mishnah - Chachamim): When he gets home he is
exempt, for he was poor at the time.
1. Inference: Had he been rich at the time, he would be
(p) Answer (Rav Chisda): This is Midas Chasidus.
(a) Question (Beriasa): If a Yisrael ate Tevel, or a Levi ate
Ma'aser that is Tevel to Terumas Ma'aser (Terumas Ma'aser
was not separated from it), he is exempt;
1. "Asher Yarimu" - Terumah belongs to the Kohen only
after it is separated.
(b) Answer: Here also, the Kohen received the Tevel before
the Yisrael or Levi ate it.
2. Inference: Had he eaten it after it was separated,
he would be liable!
3. According to Rav Chisda, he should be exempt!
1. The Tana holds that Terumah is considered separated
even before it is separated.