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Chagigah 5

CHAGIGAH 4 & 5 - anonymously dedicated by an Ohev Torah and Marbitz Torah in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.


(a) Why did Rebbi Yochanan weep when he arrived at the Pasuk in Iyov ...
  1. ... "va'Tesiseini Vo le'Val'o Chinam"?
  2. ... "Hein bi'Kedoshav Lo Ya'amin"?
(b) Rebbi Yochanan also learned from the latter Pasuk that Hashem sometimes removes innocent Tzadikim from the world when they are still young, because they might sin (better to die innocent than guilty).
How did he learn this from a man picking figs?

(c) Rebbi Alexandri once said about a Talmid-Chacham who lived in his vicinity and who died young that, had he so wished, he could have lived longer.
How did Rebbi Alexandri know that he was not one of those young Tzadikim whom Hashem removes prematurely, as Rebbi Yochanan just explained?

(d) How does the Gemara in Kidushin interpret the Pasuk in Koheles "ve'Tov Lo Yihyeh la'Rasha, ve'Lo Ya'arich Yamim, ke'Tzeil Asher Einenu Yarei mi'Lifnei ha'Elokim"?

(a) Why did Rebbi Yochanan weep when he got to the Pasuk in Mal'achi "ve'Karavti Aleichem la'Mishpat, ve'Hayisi Eid Memaher ba'Mechashfim ... "?

(b) What does ...

  1. ... Rebbi Yochanan ben Zakai comment on the fact that the Pasuk goes on to list those who withhold a worker's wages together with adulterers and sorcerers?
  2. ... Resh Lakish comment on the plural form of "u'Matei Ger" (also listed there)?
(c) What does Rav Chanina bar Papa say about someone who, after sinning, is filled with remorse?
(a) Why did Rebbi Yochanan weep when he arrived at the Pasuk in Koheles "Ki es Kol Ma'aseh ha'Elokim Yavi ba'Mishpat al Kol *Ne'elam* Im Tov ve'Im Ra"?

(b) The word "*Kol*" implies that one is punishable even for the smallest offence. Rav gives an example of killing a louse in the presence of another person (who is sickened by it).
What similar example does Shmuel give?

(a) "Im Tov ve'Im Ra" (in the previous Pasuk) implies that one is sometimes punishable even for the performing of a *good* deed. Rebbi Yanai interprets this to include giving Tzedakah to a poor man (who did not ask publicly). What did Rebbi Yanai once say to a person who did just that?

(b) de'Bei Rebbi Shilo interprets the Pasuk to include giving Tzedakah to a woman in secret.
What is wrong with that?

(c) Rava interprets the Pasuk to include giving unporged meat to one's wife on Erev Shabbos to prepare for Shabbos.
What is wrong with that? Why specifically on Erev Shabbos?

(d) In that case, how come that Rava himself gave his wife unporged meat on Erev Shabbos to prepare for Shabbos?

(a) Shmuel interprets "Im Tov ve'Im Ra" to include giving Tzedakah to a poor man who has fallen upon hard times.
What can be wrong with that?

(b) What did Rava mean when he said 'Zuza le'Alela Lo Sh'chiach, li'T'lasa Sh'chi'ach'?

(c) Rebbi Yochanan also wept when he got to the Pasuk in va'Yeilech "ve'Hayah Ki Simtzena Oso Ra'os Rabos ve'Tzaros".
What does "Ra'os ve'Tzaros" mean? Why did that cause Rebbi Yochanan to weep?

(a) The Pasuk there writes "ve'Charah Api Bo ... va'Azavtim ve'Histarti Panai Meihem ve'Hayah le'Echol".
What does Rav Bardela bar Tivyumi Amar Rav comment on "ve'Histarti Panai Meihem" and on "ve'Hayah le'Echol"?

(b) What did Rava retort when the Rabbanan commented that he suffered neither the one nor the other?

(c) What nevertheless happened as a result of their comments?

(d) Which statement of Raban Shimon ben Gamliel's does this episode corroborate?

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(a) What did Rava infer from the words "ve'Anochi Hastir Astir Panai Meihim *ba'Yom ha'Hu*" (va'Yeilech)?

(b) What did Rav Yosef add, based on the Pasuk in Yeshayah "u've'Tzeil Yadi Kisisich"?

(c) An Apikores hinted the Pasuk in va'Yeilech to Rebbi Yehoshua in front of the emperor of Rome, and, in response, Rebbi Yehoshua hinted back the Pasuk in Yeshayah.
What happened next?

(d) In what context did Rebbi Yehoshua quote the Pasuk in Yirmiyah "Avdah Eitzah mi'Banim, Nisrechah Chachmasam" (or the Pasuk in va'Yishlach "va'Yomer Nis'ah ve'Neilechah, ve'Eilchah le'Negdecha")? Which problem did he alleviate with this Pasuk?

(a) Rebbi Ila was concerned about the Pasuk in Amos "u'Magid le'Adam Mah Sicho".
How did Rav explain it? To whom does it refer?

(b) How did Rav then justify to Rav Kahana the fact that he had spoken lightheartedly to his wife before Tashmish ha'Mitah?

(c) Rav, explaining a Pasuk in Yirmiyah, states that Hashem weeps in a specific location called 'Mistarim'. Rebbi Shmuel bar Yitzchak explains "Mipnei Geiva" (the cause of His weeping) to mean because of the pride of Yisrael that has been taken from them and given to the nations of the world. How does Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini explain it?

(d) We learn from the Pasuk in Divrei ha'Yamim 1 "Hod ve'Hadar Lefanav, Oz ve'Chedvah bi'Mekomo" that Hashem only weeps in the inner chambers.
When does the weeping extend to the outer chambers, too?

(a) According to the *first* Lashon, Yirmiyah repeated Dim'ah three times in the Pasuk "ve'Damo'a Tidmah ve'Seired Eini Dim'ah Ki Nishbah Eider Hashem"; twice for the two Batei Mikdash, and once for Yisrael who went into Galus. What does the third allusion to tears represent, according to the *second* Lashon?

(b) How does the second Lashon explain the conclusion of the Pasuk "Ki Nishbah Eider Hashem" (which seems to conform only with the first Lashon)?

(a) Hashem weeps every day over three types of people: the first of these is someone who is able to study Torah but fails to do so.
What are the other two?

(b) Why did Rebbi drop the Seifer Kinos (Eichah) when he got to the Pasuk "Hishlich mi'Shamayim Eretz" (see also Agados Maharsha)?

(a) What Berachah did that blind man give Rebbi and Rebbi Chiya when they went to visit him?

(b) What comment did his Berachah illicit from Rebbi? Why did he say that?

(c) That blind man learned the significance of going to greet someone from Rebbi Ya'akov.
How did Rebbi Ya'akov convey that lesson? What did he used to do?

(d) What did Rebbi Ya'akov Darshen to his Rebbe from the Pasuk in Tehilim "vi'Yechi Od Lanetzach Lo Yir'eh ha'Shachas, Ki Yir'u Chachamim Yamusu"?

(a) Why did they confer upon Rav Idi the father of Rebbi Ya'akov bar Idi the title of 'Bar Bei Rav de'Chad Yoma'?

(b) Why did he used to do that? Why did he not remain in the Beis ha'Medrash for longer?

(c) Rav Idi took his title to be a mockery.
What Derashah did Rebbi Yochanan make from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "ve'Osi Yidreshun Yom Yom" to prove that Rav Idi's behavior was most praiseworthy?

(d) What did he also Darshen from the Pasuk in Sh'lach Lecha "be'Mispar ha'Yamim Asher Tartem es ha'Aretz ... Arba'im Shanah"?

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