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Previous daf Chagigah 19
CHAGIGAH 19 & 20 - anonymously dedicated by an Ohev Torah and Marbitz Torah
in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.
1) HAVING KAVANAH AFTER IMMERSING
1. This is proved from a Mishnah (Machshirin 4:7) which says
that if fruits fell into water and a person with Tamei
hands reached in to get them without intention for his
hands to become Tahor, they become Tahor anyway.
(c) Question: But our Mishnah says that if one had Kavanah for
Chulin while immersing, he may eat Chulin but not Ma'aser.
1. This implies that one must have Kavanah when immersing for
(d) Answer: The Mishnah is teaching that his Kavanah for Chulin
does not help for Ma'aser (but he does not need Kavanah for
(e) Question: But our Mishnah says that if one immersed without
Kavanah, it is as if he did not immerse!
1. This implies that his immersion is completely useless,
even for Chulin!
(f) Answer: No, it means that his immersion does not help for
Ma'aser (but it does help for Chulin, even with no Kavanah).
1. A Beraisa collaborates this understanding of the Mishnah.
(a) (R. Elazar) One who immersed and came out of the Mikvah may
still be Machzik himself (i.e. have Kavanah) for whatever he
wants (Chulin, Ma'aser, etc.).
2) "GUD ACHIS" AND "GUD ASIK"
(b) Question: A Beraisa contradicts this!
1. (Beraisa) If one immersed with Kavanah for a lower level
item (e.g. Chulin), he may change and have Kavanah for a
higher level item (e.g. Ma'aser), as long as one leg is
still in the Mikvah.
(c) Answer: The Beraisa means that if he had Kavanah while he was
in the Mikvah, he cannot have Kavanah for something else when
he comes out (unless one leg is still in the Mikvah).
2. But if he is completely out of the Mikvah, he can no longer
1. But if he did not have any Kavanah while in the Mikvah, he
may have Kavanah for whatever he wants even after he comes
(a) Who is the Tana of the Beraisa (that states that as
long as one's leg is still in the Mikvah, he may have Kavanah
for whatever he wants), who holds of "Gud Achis"?
(b) (R. Padas) It is R. Yehudah, as we see from the Mishnah
1. When two people immerse consecutively in a Mikvah that has
exactly 40 Se'ah, the second person remains Tamei (since
the first diminished the Shi'ur of the Mikvah when he
emerged with water on him).
(c) Question: May small utensils (needles and weaving forks) be
immersed by placing them on the head of the person standing in
2. R. Yehudah says that if the first person's feet were still
touching the water in the Mikvah, then the second person
becomes Tahor (because of "Gud Achis").
1. Does R. Yehudah only hold of "Gud Achis" but not "Gud Asik,"
or does he also hold of "Gud Asik?"
(d) Answer: R. Yehudah said (in a Tosefta) that in the case of
three Mikva'os on a hill -- the upper one and lower one each
with 20 Se'ah, and the middle one with 40 Se'ah -- one may
immerse only in the lower one and not in the upper one.
3) DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN CHULIN AND MA'ASER WITH REGARD TO THE
1. From here we learn that R. Yehudah holds only of "Gud Achis"
and not "Gud Asik."
(a) Question: Who is the Tana of our Mishnah?
1. The Mishnah says that one who immersed with intention for
Chulin may not eat Ma'aser.
(b) Answer: It is the Rabanan, who differentiate between Chulin and
2. This implies that the Tana of the Mishnah holds that there
is a difference between Chulin and Ma'aser.
(c) Question: But the end of the Mishnah implies that there is no
difference between Chulin and Ma'aser!
(d) Answer: The beginning of the Mishnah is the Rabanan, and the
end if R. Meir (who does not differentiate between Chulin and
(e) Answer #2 (R. Acha b. Ada): We must add another level (Ma'alah)
to the end of the Mishnah, so that Chulin and Ma'aser are
differentiated from each other.
1. As a result, the entire Mishnah is the Rabanan.