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Bava Metzia 117

BAVA METZIA 116-117 - anonymously dedicated by an Ohev Torah and Marbitz Torah in Ramat Beit Shemesh, Israel.


(a) Rebbi Aba bar Mamal asks whether, in our Mishnah, when Reuven moves downstairs, Shimon is obligated to move out, because to begin with, he rented Shimon a single apartment, or whether he may remain there.
What is the reason for the second side of the She'eilah?

(b) What She'eilah does he ask regarding the entrance, assuming that we rule like the second side of the previous She'eilah?

(c) On what grounds might Reuven be permitted to use the front door, despite the fact that initially, he had entered the attic via the rooftops?

(d) Assuming that the second side of the previous She'eilah is indeed Halachah, what do we then ask regarding a three-storey house? What is the outcome of this She'eilah?

(a) Rebbi Yossi obligates the owner to repair the floor of the attic. According to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina, this constitutes poles and rush-mats.
What does S'tini Amar Resh Lakish say?

(b) What is the basis of their dispute?

(a) When the cement of the floor of Reuven's attic cracked, what problem did it cause Shimon who lived underneath him?

(b) According to Rebbi Chiya bar Aba, the onus of repairing the ceiling lay on Reuven, what did Rebbi Ila'i in the name of Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef say?

(c) What does the Pasuk in Vayeishev "ve'Yosef Hurad Mitzrayim" have to do with this Machlokes?

(a) We already discussed the Mishnah in Bava Basra.
What does the Tana Kama say there about Reuven's tree that is growing within twenty-five Amos of Shimon's pit (fifty Amos if it a carob or a Shikmah tree) assuming that ...
  1. ... the pit was there first?
  2. ... tree was there first?
  3. ... it is a Safek?
(b) Why does the Tana not make an allowance for a tree that is much lower down on the slope of a mountain than the pit?

(c) What does Rebbi Yossi say?

(a) Why can Rebbi Yossi and the Tana Kama in our Mishnah not be follow their reasoning there?

(b) What is the basic difference between the case in our Mishnah and the case in Bava Basra (based on the fact that whereas the latter is speaking about two owners, our Mishnah is speaking about a Socher and a Maskir)?

(c) Then what is the basis of the Machlokes Rebbi Yossi and the Tana Kama in our Mishnah?

(d) In that case, what is the basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi Chiya bar Aba and Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef?

(a) We ask on the above comparison of the Machlokes Amora'im (in the case of the water) to the Machlokes Tana'im, from Rav Ashi.
What did Rav Ashi quote Rav Kahana as saying with regard to 'Giyri Dileih'?

(b) Why do we initially consider our case one of 'Giyri Dileih'?

(c) How do we answer this Kashya?

(a) What does the Tana Kama rule in a case where Reuven and Shimon share a house, and where Reuven lives in the attic and Shimon downstairs, if the house caves in and Reuven refuses to rebuild his floor?

(b) On what grounds does Rebbi Yehudah object to the Tana Kama's ruling?

(c) Then what should Reuven do, according to him?

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(a) According to Rebbi Yochanan, our Mishnah is one of three places where Rebbi Yehudah forbids Reuven to benefit from Shimon's property without his consent.
Which is the first case?

(b) If Reuven gave Shimon wool to dye red and he dyed it black or vice-versa, Rebbi Meir, in the Mishnah in Bava Kama, rules 'Nosen Lo D'mei Tzimro'.
Why is that?

(c) What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(d) The third case is a Mishnah in Bava Basra, where Reuven, after receiving half his debt from Shimon, hands the Sh'tar to a third person, whom Shimon instructs, that in the event that he fails to pay the balance by a certain time, he should return the Sh'tar to Reuven. Rebbi Yossi rules there 'Yiten'.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(a) We query Rebbi Yochanan's reasoning in all three cases.
What logical reason might there be for Rebbi Yehudah's stringent ruling in the case of ...
  1. ... our Mishnah?
  2. ... the Mishnah in Bava Kama?
  3. ... the Mishnah in Bava Basra?
(b) According to this, what would Rebbi Yehudah hold in a case where Reuven took up residence in Shimon's Chatzer, assuming that Shimon had no intention of renting it out? Would he obligated to pay Shimon rent?

(c) We just established Rebbi Yehudah's reason in Bava Basra as Asmachta, on the grounds, we said 'that we have heard him say that', implying that there is another source.
Where else did he say it?

(a) When he comes to rebuild the ground-floor apartment of the house that collapsed, Rav Acha bar Ada quoting Ula, permits the owner to switch from ...
  1. ... G'vil to Gazis, but not vice-versa.
    What is the advantage of G'vil over Gazis in this regard?
  2. ... Leveinim to Kefisin, but not vice-versa.
    What is the advantage of Kefisin over Leveinim?
(b) By the same token, he permits him to switch from Shikmim to cedars (because they are stronger) when building the partition between his apartment and that of the first-floor owner's.
What does he say about ...
  1. ... adding or diminishing windows?
  2. ... raising the height of his apartment or lowering it?
(c) If both owners are poor and cannot afford to build, and the owner of the ground floor wants to sell the ground, Rebbi Nasan grants him two-thirds of the ground, and the owner of the attic, one third.
What does Acherim (Rebbi Meir) say?

(d) Rabah rules like Rebbi Nasan, because he was a Dayan who gets to the bottom of the Halachah.
What is the reasoning behind Rebbi Nasan's ruling?

(a) What does our Mishnah say in a case of an oil-press in a cave belonging to Reuven above which was a vegetable garden belonging to Shimon, if the ceiling of the cave caved in and Reuven refused to rebuild it?

(b) If a wall or a tree falls into the street causing damage, the owner is generally Patur.
In which case will he be liable?

(c) What does the Tana say in a case where Reuven's wall fell onto Shimon's vegetable-garden, and in response to Shimon's request to remove his stones, he replied that Shimon should keep them?

(d) And what will be the Din if after Shimon accepts Reuven's offer, the latter then offers to pay him for his expenses and wants his stones back?

12) What does the Mishnah say in a case where ...
  1. ... Reuven instructs Shimon his laborer to take the haystack that he built as his wages?
  2. ... after Shimon has accepted Reuven's offer, he offers him his wages instead?
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