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Bava Metzia 87


(a) What does Rebbi Elazar comment on the fact that Avraham promised his guests bread, and then ran to Shecht bulls?

(b) And how does he learn from Efron that Resha'im talk much but do nothing?

(c) What are 'Kantarin'?

(a) And what does Rebbi Yitzchak learn from the fact that the Pasuk refers to both Kemach and So'les?

(b) Efrayim Maksha'ah quoting Rebbi Meir explains that Sarah did not serve bread, as Avraham originally instructed her, because, in anticipation of the baby that she would soon bear, her youth returned to her and she became a Nidah.
Why is that a reason not to serve bread?

(c) Seeing as the Angels knew exactly where Sarah was, why did they ask Avraham where she was?

(d) What reason does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina give for this?

(a) What reason does Rebbi Yossi give for the dots on the letters 'Alef, 'Yud' and 'Vav' of "Va'yomru *Eilav* Ayei Sarah Ishtecha"?

(b) How do we reconcile this with Shmuel, who forbids greeting a woman at all, even through a third person?

(c) How does Rav Chisda interpret Sarah's surprise when she heard that she would bear a child?

(d) Sarah said "va'Adoni Zaken". What did Hashem quote her as saying?
How does Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael explain the discrepancy?

(a) "Mi Milel le'Avraham, Heinikah Banim Sarah".
How does Rebbi Levi explain the use of the plural ("Banim"), seeing as Sarah only gave birth to one son?

(b) How did Hashem counter their skepticism over the possibility that Avraham at the age of a hundred, should have fathered a son?

(c) The first person to age was Araham, to become weak (and bedridden) before dying was Yitzchak (previously, someone who was destined to die would sneeze and drop dead).
Who was the first person to recover from an illness?

(d) Why did ...

  1. ... Avraham Daven for old age?
  2. ... Ya'akov Daven for illness to precede death?
(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Melachim "ve'Elisha Chalah es Cholyo *Asher Yamus Bah*"?

(b) Elisha's third illness is the one that led to his death.
What did he do that caused his two other illnesses?

(c) What did Rav Chisda reply when Rav Acha B'rei de'Rav Yosef asked him whether our Mishnah (citing the words of Rebbi Yochanan ben Masya) reads 'Pas Kitnis' or 'Pas ve'Kitnis'?

(d) What Rav Chisda actually said was that 'Kitnis requires a 'Vav' like 'Murdaya de'Livros'.
What is 'Murdaya de'Livros'? What is the significance of the Mashal?

(a) Raban Shimon ben Gamliel in our Mishnah concludes 'ha'Kol Ke'Minhag ha'Medinah'. This concurs with the opinion of the Chachamim of Rebbi Yehoshua in a Beraisa.
What does Rebbi Yehoshua conclude in the case 'ha'Socher es ha'Po'el, ve'Amar Lo ke'Echad u'Shenayim mi'B'nei ha'Ir ... '?

(b) What do the Chachamim say?

(a) Our Mishnah now discusses the Dinim of a laborer eating from the food with which he is working.
When is a laborer permitted to eat, presuming that he works with ...
  1. ... Mechubar (that is attached to the ground)?
  2. ... Talush (which is detached)?
(b) What is the definition of 'Nigmerah Melachto' by Talush?

(c) When is he never allowed to eat?

(d) What is an example of ...

  1. ... Mechubar that is not Nigmerah Melachto?
  2. ... Talush that *is*?
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(a) We learn that a laborer may eat from the grapes that he is picking from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "Ki Savo be'Kerem Re'acha Ve'achalta Anavim".
From where do we initially learn that this concession extends to other fruit?

(b) How do we learn from the Pasuk "ve'El Kelyecha Lo Siten" that this Din is referring specifically to a laborer who is picking the grapes (the G'mar Melachah of fruit)?

(c) On what grounds do we reject this 'Binyan Av'? What does one give from grapes that one does give from any other species of fruit?

(d) If we cannot incorporate other fruit from grapes, then we need a second source to form a 'Binyan Av from two Pesukim'.
What is that second source?

(a) What important condition do we learn from the Pasuk (in connection with Kamah) "ve'Chermesh Lo Sanif"?

(b) What do we learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Ki Savo *be'Kamas* Re'echa" from "me'Hachel Chermesh *ba'Kamah*" (written by the Omer, which is brought from barley)?

(c) Seeing as the concession pertains to crops that are subject to Chalah, from where do we now know that it extends to fruit that is not?

(a) What problem do we have with the 'Mah Matzinu' (or 'Mah ha'Tzad') of corn and grapes? What is the only fruit that it would incorporate?

(b) Why would we need a 'Mah Matzinu' to incorporate olives anyway? Are olives not automatically included in "Kerem"?

(a) So we try to include fruits that do not go on the Mizbe'ach from "Chermesh" ('Le'rabos Kol Ba'alei Chermesh').
How do we repudiate the Kashya that Chermesh is needed to confine the concession to eat to the time of 'Chermesh' (G'mar Melachah)? What other source do we have for this?

(b) On what grounds do we nevertheless reject "Chermesh" as a source for all other species of fruit. ?

(c) What is an example of ...

  1. ... 'fruit' that is a bar Chermesh?
  2. ... fruit that is not a bar Chermesh?
(a) So Rebbi Yitzchak finally learns other fruit from "Kamah", 'Le'rabos Kol Ba'alei Kamah'.
But did we not use "Kamah" for a 'Gezeirah-Shavah', to confine the concession to crops that are subject to Chalah?

(b) What problem do we now have with the Pasuk "Ki Savo be'Kerem Re'echa, ve'Achalta"?

(c) To answer this, Rava cites a Beraisa, which explains the entire Pasuk.
What does the Tana learn from ...

  1. ... the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Ki Savo be'Kerem Re'echa" "be'Yomo Titen S'charo, ve'Lo Savo Alav ha'Shemesh"? What does the latter Pasuk teach us?
  2. ... the Pasuk "be'Kerem *Re'echa*"?
(d) What will those who hold that Gezel Kuti is permitted learn from the latter Pasuk (seeing as no special Pasuk is needed to permit a laborer to eat from a Nochri's crops)?
(a) The Tana Darshens from "Ve'achalta", 've'Lo Motzetz' (sucking the juice and spitting out the pits).
What does he learn from ...
  1. ... "Anavim"?
  2. ... "ke'Nafshecha"?
(b) Why is the owner Patur from Ma'asering?

(c) Why might we have otherwise thought that the laborer is Chayav to Ma'aser what he eats, even though the owner is Patur?

(d) We have already learned from "ve'El Kelyecha Lo Siten", that the Pasuk is speaking at the time of G'mar Melachah.
What does the Tana Darshen from "Sov'echa"?

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