REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Bava Metzia 2
BAVA METZIA 2 - sponsored by Jeff Ramm (Atlanta/Jerusalem/Florida), an avid
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wife always have much Nachas from their wonderful children and
Please note that unless otherwise indicated, we follow the explanation of
Rashi. Consequently, our notes and comments do not necessarily have any
bearing on the practical Halachah.
(a) What does our Mishnah rule in a case where two people arrive in Beis-Din
holding a Talis (a cloak), each of whom claims that he found it and that it
all belongs to him?
(b) What will the Din be, if ...
(c) If one of them claims the whole Talis, and the other one, only half,
then the former takes three quarters and the latter, a quarter.
- ... only one of them is holding it?
- ... neither of them is holding it (see Tosfos DH 've'Yachloku')?
(a) And what does the Tana say in a case where ...
(b) Why does the Tana find it necessary to add these cases?
- ... both of them lay claim to the animal which they are riding or leading?
- ... one of them is riding it and the other one, leading it?
(c) And how will the Din differ if they both agree, or if they have
witnesses that the article belongs to both of them? Note, that this latter
ruling will be explained later in the Sugya.
(a) How do we initially explain the Tana's double-case ('Zeh Omer Ani
Metzasihah ... Zeh Omer Kulah she'Li ... ')?
(b) How do we explain the need for this? Why will the claim of 'Ani
Metzasihah' not suffice?
(c) We query this however, from Ravina.
What did Ravina (in connection
with the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "le'Chol Aveidas Achicha", from which we
preclude the lost article of a Nochri) learn from the word "u'Metzasah"?
(d) How do we refute this Kashya? What distinction do we make between Lishna
di'K'ra and Lishna de'Alma?
(a) If 'Kulah she'Li' comes to teach us that the finder actually picked up
the object, why does the Tana need to insert 'Ani Metzasihah'? Let him just
speak about 'Kulah she'Li'?
Answers to questions
(b) On what grounds do we reject the current explanation of our Mishnah?
(c) So how does Rav Papa (or Rav Shimi bar Ashi or K'di) establish the two
(d) Having presented the case of ...
- ... Metzi'ah, why did the Tana need to mention that of purchasing?
- ... purchasing, why did he need to mention that of Metzi'ah?
(a) In the case of purchase, where they both claim that they bought the
Talis, why do we not just ask the seller who paid him the money?
(b) Is a storekeeper believed to say to whom he sold a disputed article ...
(c) Why is the correct text 've'Lo Yad'inan me'Hei mi'Da'atei ... ', rather
than 've'Lo Yada'?
- ... assuming that it is still in his domain?
- ... assuming that he has already given it into the disputants' hands?
(a) In the case of 'Chenvani al Pinkaso' who is claiming from whom?
(b) The Rabbanan there rule that both the worker and the storekeeper swear
and claim their due from the Balabos.
What does Ben Na'nes say?
(c) How do we reconcile our Mishnah with ben Na'nes?
(a) What does Sumchus say in the case of an ox that gored a cow and we do
not know whether the dead stillborn calf that is lying beside it was born
before the goring or after it?
(b) What makes us think that the author of our Mishnah cannot be Sumchus?
(c) Why is there no problem with establishing our Mishnah like the Rabbanan
there? Why can we not use the same S'vara to reconcile it with Sumchus?
(a) What distinction do we initially draw between 'Shema ve'Shema' and 'Bari
u'Bari' to reconcile Sumchus with our Mishnah?
(b) This answer will not work according to Rabah bar Rav Huna. What did
Rabah bar Rav Huna say in connection with Sumchus' ruling?
(a) We try to reconcile Sumchus with our Mishnah by confining his opinion to
where there is a D'rara de'Mamona.
Answers to questions
What is 'D'rara de'Mamona'?
(b) On what grounds do we repudiate this suggestion?
(c) What other objection do we raise to establishing our Mishnah like
Sumchus? Why would it seem highly unlikely for Sumchus to require a Shevu'ah
in our Mishnah?
(d) We answer both Kashyos with a statement of Rebbi Yochanan.
Rebbi Yochanan say about the Shevu'ah in our Mishnah?