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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Bava Kama 2
BAVA KAMA 2 - the opening Daf in Seder Nezikin has been dedicated by Rabbi
Dr. Eli Turkel of Ra'anana, Israel, to the memory of his father, Reb Yisrael
Shimon ben Shlomo ha'Levi Turkel, whose Yarhzeit is tomorrow (10 Av).
Please note that unless otherwise indicated, we follow the explanation of
Rashi. Consequently, our notes and comments do not necessarily have any
bearing on the practical Halachah.
(a) There are four Avos Nezikin - Shor, Bor, Mav'eh and Hev'er (which will
be explained later).
(b) 'Avos Nezikin' - are the principle categories of damage, all of which
are mentioned by the Torah in Mishpatim.
(c) The Tana does not follow the same order as he does further on in the
Mishnah 'Lo Harei ha'Shor ke'Hrei ha'Mav'eh ... ' - because it prefers to
follow the order in which they appear in the Torah (see Tosfos DH
(d) Assuming 'Shor' to mean the damage of 'Regel', and Mav'eh, that of
'Shen', when the Tana says 'Lo Harei ha'Shor ke'Harei ha'Mav'eh', he means -
that had the Torah only written 'Regel', we would not automatically have
known 'Shen' from it (for reasons that will be explained later).
(a) We need a Pasuk to teach us the obligation to pay of someone who ...
1. ... lights a fire. We cannot learn it from Shor and Mav'eh - since they
possess a soul of life (which may be the reason that they are obligated to
pay, whereas a fire does not.
(b) The two specifications that all four Avos have in common are - that it
is natural for them to damage and that the onus of guarding them against
such a contingency lies on the person who will ultimately have to pay.
2. ... digs a pit. We cannot learn it from Shor, Mav'eh and Hev'er - which
all move (and enter the domain of the Nizak), whereas a Bor remains still
(and it is the Nizak who enters the Mazik's domain).
(c) Assuming that the Mazik pays with Karka, he is obligated to pay with -
the best quality ground.
(d) He is not obligated to pay with Karka - even if the Nizak asks for it,
umless he chooses to do so.
(a) Where there are Avos, there must be Toldos. We also find this
distinction - in the areas of Shabbos and Tum'ah.
(b) There is - no basic difference between the thirty-nine Avos and the
Toldos regarding Shabbos, because in both regards one is Chayav a Chatas for
a Shogeg, and Sekilah for transgressing be'Meizid.
(c) The Tana refers specifically to those thirty-nine as Avos and the rest
as Toldos, according to ...
1. ... the Chachamim of Rebbi Eliezer) - to teach us that if someone
contravenes an Av together with its Toldah in one He'elam (having forgotten
that both are forbidden on Shabbos), one brings only one Chatas.
2. ... Rebbi Eliezer (who obligates two Chata'os in that case), because the
thirty- nine Avos Melachos were considered major Melachos in the Mishkan.
(a) What a Sheretz, Shichvas-Zera (semen) and a Tamei Meis have in common
is - that they are all Avos ha'Tum'ah.
(b) In spite of the fact that a Tamei Meis is not a source, he is
nevertheless an Av ha'Tum'ah - because the corpse itself is an Avi Avos
(c) Toldos ha'Tum'ah differ from Avos - inasmuch as they can only transmit
Tum'ah to food and drink, whereas Avos render people and vessels Tamei as
(d) When they asked whether the Toldos of Nezikin follow the specifications
of the Avos or not, Rav Papa gave a vague answer. He said - some of them are
and some of them aren't.
(a) The Tana of the Beraisa lists - three Avos in 'Shor', Keren, Shen and
(b) From the Pasuk ...
1. ... "Va'ya'as Lo Tzidkiyah ... Karnei Barzel, Va'yomer, Koh Amar Hashem
... be'Eileh *Tenagach* es Aram" - he learns that when the Torah writes "Ki
Yigach" (Negichah), it is referring to the horn.
(c) The initial suggestion is that 'Divrei Torah mi'Divrei Kabalah Lo
Yalfinan' - 'Divrei Kabalah' refers to Nevi'im and Kesuvim.
2. ... "Bechor Shoro Hadar Lo, ve'Karnei Lahem Karnav, Bahem Amim
*Yenagach*" - that it is not only for damages performed by a detached horn
that one pays for only half the damage the first three times (because it is
unusual), but that the same applies to the damage performed by a horn that
is attached (because it is unusual too).
(d) We refute that suggestion however, on the grounds that learning a
definition from a Pasuk in Nach falls under the category of a 'Giluy Milsa'
(an indication) rather than a 'Yalfusa' (a real Limud, which is confined to
(a) Negifah, Neshichah, Revitzah and Be'itah are all Toldos of Keren. They
are Chayav - only if the animal performed these acts with the express
intention of damaging the object, animal or person involved.
(b) Despite the fact that, in the same Parshah, the Torah also writes "Ki
Yigof", Negifah is nevertheless not considered an Av - because the Negifah
in the Pasuk is synonymous with Negichah (as we shall now explain).
(c) By referring to Negichah (by Shor de'Azik Shor) with the Lashon "Ki
Yigof" (which implies a less forceful action), the Torah implies - that a
person has a Mazel (a sixth sense that makes him afraid of oxen and
therefore more elusive, making it more difficult for the ox to get him; or a
protective angel, that forces the ox to use more force to kill him), whereas
an animal does not.
(d) The ramifications of this distinction are - that when the ox is Mu'ad
(duly warned after killing three times, obligating to pay full damages) for
killing a *person*, it is automatically Mu'ad for killing an animal, but not
(a) What makes ...
1. ... Neshichah a Toldah of Keren and not of Shen - is the fact that by
'Shen', the animal derives benefit from its damage, whereas by Neshichah, it
(b) We reject the proposal that Rav Papa's 'Toldoseihen La'av ke'Yotze
Bahen' refers to the Toldos of Keren on the grounds - that they, like Keren,
are 'Kavanaso La'hazik (the animal intends to damage), Mamoncha (your
property) u'Shemirasan Alecha' (the onus is on you to guard them)'.
Consequently, there is no logical reason to differentiate between the Av and
2. ... Be'itah and Revitzah Toldos of Keren and not of Regel - is the fact
that Regel is common, whereas they are not.
(c) So we switch to Shen ve'Regel. Bearing in mind that the Torah writes
"*ve'Shilach* es Be'iro *u'Bi'er* bi'S'deh Acher", we learn from the Pasuk
1. ... "*Meshalchei Regel* ha'Shor ve'ha'Chamor" - that "ve'Shilach" refers
(d) In the previous Pasuk, Shen is referred to as "Galal" either because it
is sometimes revealed - or because by means of the tooth, the food is
reduced to excrement (which "Galal" can also mean).
2. ... "Ka'asher *Yeva'er* ha'Galal ad Tumo" - that "u'Bi'er" refers to