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Beitzah 29

BEITZAH 26, 27, 28, 29 - dedicated by Yitzchak Gross of Brooklyn, NY, l'Iluy Nishmas his father, Menashe Yehudah ben Matisyahu, and his mother, Dina bas Yisroel.


(a) The Tana Kama permits asking one's friend to sell him vessel-full of wine (or whatever), provided it is not 'be'Midah'. To explain this, Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel differentiates between a K'li ha'Meyuchad le'Midah and one which is Omed le'Midah.
What does the Tana Kama permit, according to Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel?

(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(c) According to Rava, even Rebbi Yehudah agrees that one may use a 'K'li ha'Omed le'Midah'.
Then what are they arguing about?

(d) If the Tana Kama (the Rabbanan) permit even a 'K'li ha'Meyuched le'Midah', then what do they mean by 'Aval Lo be'Midah'?

(a) According to both Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel and Rava's interpretation of the Machlokes, what problem do we have with it from a Machlokes that we learned earlier between the same Tana'im regarding weighing meat against a vessel?

(b) How do we reconcile ...

  1. ... Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah with Rebbi Yehudah there?
  2. ... the Rabbanan here with the Rabbanan there?
(a) Why did Aba Shaul ben Botnis, who was a wine-merchant, used to fill all his measuring vessels before Yom-Tov?

(b) According to Aba Shaul, he used to do that even on Chol ha'Mo'ed.

(c) How will this explanation differ slightly if we have the text 'Mipnei Birurei ha'Midos' in our Mishnah? What is 'Birurei ha'Midos'?

(a) Aba Shaul ben Botnis collected three hundred barrels of wine from the Birurei ha'Midos that his clients did not have time to collect.
What did his colleagues collect in the same period of time?

(b) They took the three hundred barrels to the treasurers of Hekdesh.
What for? Why did they not declare them Hekdesh?

(c) What did the treasurers of Hekdesh said to them ...

  1. ... initially?
  2. ... when they still declined to retain them because of a suspicion of theft?
(d) What constitutes 'Tzorchei Rabim'?
(a) Rav Chisda took Rabana Ukva for a walk one day and taught him about the prohibition of measuring barley for one's animal on Yom-Tov.
Then what does one do to ensure that the animal receives the right amount of food?

(b) May a Nachtom measure spices to add to his pot on Yom-Tov? What is a 'Nachtom' in this context?

(a) Rav permits a woman to measure flour for her dough on Yom-Tov.
What is the reason for this? What is the Shiur Chalah?

(b) What does Shmuel say?

(c) How do we reconcile Shmuel's ruling with the Tana de'Bei Shmuel, who says Mutar?

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(a) The Tana Kama of the Beraisa says 'Ein Shonin Kemach be'Yom-Tov'.
What does this mean? Why is it forbidden?

(b) Why do Rebbi Papayos and Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseira permit it?

(c) In which case does even the Tana Kama agree that re-sifting flour is permitted?

(d) Why did Ravina object to the Beraisa quoted by the Beraisa-expert, which forbids re-sifting flour into which stones of splinters of wood fell, but permits removing them by hand?

(a) What did Rav Nachman say, when Rava bar Rav Huna Zuta Darshened at the gates of Neherda'a that re-sifting flour is permitted?

(b) What did Rav Yosef say to his wife when she started re-sifting flour using the back of the sifter?

(c) What did Rav Ashi say when *his* wife began sifting with a Shinuy (with a change)? What Shinuy did *she* make?

(a) One may ask a store-keeper for a certain number of eggs.
Why is that?

(b) Why does the Tana of our Mishnah specifically mention the fact that he knows the store-keeper well?

(c) The Beraisa adds that one may ask a shepherd for a kid-goat or a lamb, a butcher for a foot or a thigh, a bird-fattener for a pigeon or a dove and a baker for a loaf or a cake. He may not however, include 'S'chum Midah' in his request.
What is 'S'chum Midah'?

(d) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar forbids S'chum Mekach.
What is 'S'chum Mekach'?

***** Hadran Alach, 'Ein Tzadin' *****

***** Perek ha'Meivi *****


(a) How may one not transport jars of wine from place to place?

(b) How then, does he carry them?

(c) May one transport them in a box from one room to another in the same house?

(a) How may one not transport a box of straw?

(b) How then, does he transport it?

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