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Beitzah 20


(a) What did Rav Papa rule when a certain man told a group of people to give four hundred Zuz to so and so, if he would marry his daughter?

(b) Is there any way in which the condition would be valid?

(c) What did Ravina say to Mereimar when he said Rebbi Yochanan's Din (that the condition to use Ma'aser Sheini money for the Korbanos of his Nezirus is not valid) in his *own* name?

(a) What did the Beraisa expert, quoting a Beraisa, learn from the Pasuk in Shemini (regarding the Olah that was brought on the last day of the Milu'im) "va'Yakreiv es ha'Olah, va'Ya'aseha *ka'Mishpat*"?

(b) On what grounds did Rav Yitzchak bar Aba point out that the author must be Beis Shamai?

(c) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'Im Zevach Shelamim Korbano, ve'Samach Yado"?

(d) Why should we *not* learn Korbenos Chovah from Korbenos Nedavah?

(a) We query Rav Yitzchak bar Aba however. From where does he know that it is from Shalmei Nedavah that Beis Hillel learn Shalmei Chovah? Maybe he has another source.
Which source?

(b) We counter this contention by pointing out that it is no better to learn Shalmei Chovah from Olos Chovah than from Shalmei Nedavah.
What Kashya can we ask on the Limud from Olos Chovah?

(c) We conclude that Beis Hillel might learn Shalmei Chovah from both Shalmei Nedavah and Olas Chovah together with a 'Mah ha'Tzad'.
If that is correct, is Rav Yitzchak's Kashya on the Beraisa expert still valid?

(d) In any event, we are assuming that when Beis Shamai say in our Mishnah, 've'Ein Somchin Aleihen', they mean that they do not require Semichah. This clashes however, with Rebbi Yossi in a Beraisa.
What does Rebbi Yossi say? How does ...

  1. ... Rebbi Yossi explain the Machlokes Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel with regard to Semichah?
  2. ... Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah in another Beraisa explain the Machlokes?
(a) What happened once to Hillel ha'Zaken when he brought his Olah to the Azarah on Yom-Tov intending to make Semichah on it?

(b) What did he say to the elders of Beis Shamai when they queried him about that? How did put them off the trail?

(c) They would have fixed the Halachah like Beis Shamai, were it not for Bava ben Buta.
Who was Bava ben Buta? What did he do?

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(a) In a subsequent episode, what did the disciple of Beis Hillel answer a disciple of Beis Shamai, when he tried to stop him from making Semichah on an Olah on Yom-Tov?

(b) What can we learn from the disciple of Beis Hillel?

(a) How did Beis Hillel attempt to prove that one may bring an Olas Re'iyah on Yom-Tov from Shabbos?

(b) How did Beis Shamai refute their proof from Nedarim and Nedavos?

(c) How do Beis Hillel then counter Beis Shamai's argument by differentiating between Olos Re'i'yah (which have a fixed time) and Nedarim and Nedavos (which don't)?

(a) Beis Shamai disagree. They place Olos Re'iyah in the category of Korbanos that do not have a fixed time.
Why is that?

(b) How do Beis Hillel counter that?

(c) Beis Shamai finally learn from "Lachem" (Bo) 'Lachem' ve'Lo Ligvo'a'. From which Pasuk in Emor do Beis Hillel learn that one does bring an Olas Re'iyah on Yom-Tov?

(d) What do Beis Hillel learn from "Lachem"?

(a) Aba Shaul quotes Beis Hillel's argument for permitting an Olas Re'iyah differently.
How does he quote them?

(b) Why do Beis Shamai not counter Beis Hillel's argument with 'Nedarim u'Nedavos Yochichu', according to Aba Shaul?

(a) If the bringing of Nedarim and Nedavos on Yom-Tov would be a Rabbinical prohibition (according to those who hold that it is forbidden), what would be the Rabbanan's reason for prohibiting it?

(b) What is the proof that if it is Asur, it is in fact, Asur mi'd'Oraysa?

(c) If someone Shechted Nedarim or Nedavos on Yom-Tov, would the Kohen go ahead and sprinkle the blood?

(a) According to Rava, the Kohen sprinkled the blood in order to permit the flesh of the Korban to be eaten.
What does Rabah bar Rav Huna say? What is the difference between them?

(b) What is wrong with sprinkling the blood anyway? Is there an Isur d'Oraysa involved here?

(a) If someone Shechted the lambs of the Shalmei Tzibur of Shavu'os she'Lo li'Shemah or on the wrong time day, what would the Kohanim do ...
  1. ... with the blood?
  2. ... with the flesh?
  3. ... with both the blood and the flesh if this happened on Shabbos?
(b) Would the Korban be effective if the Kohen went ahead and sprinkled the blood?

(c) What Kashya does this Beraisa pose on Rabah bar Rav Huna in 10)a.?

(d) We remain with a Kashya against Rabah bar Rav Huna. Alternatively, based on the fact that the Beraisa is talking on Shabbos, and not on Yom-Tov, we suggest an answer.
What is the answer?

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