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Introduction to Beitzah

Beitzah 2

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(a) The Tana of our Mishnah quotes three rulings in the name of Beis Shamai: they forbid an egg that was laid on Yom-Tov to be eaten, give the Shiur of *yeast* on Pesach as a k'Zayis but that of *Chametz* as a Koseves (a large date), and permit Shechting a bird and then digging earth with a spade (others translate 'Deker' as a peg or a spear) in order to fulfill the Mitzvah of Kisuy ha'Dam.
What do Beis Hillel say with regard to ...
  1. ... an egg that was laid on Yom-Tov?
  2. ... the Shiur of Chametz on Pesach?
  3. ... Shechting a bird and digging earth with a peg on Yom-Tov?
(b) Why does the Tana put specifically these three Halachos together?

(c) What will Beis Hillel hold that one must do if one *did* Shecht without the spade being prepared before Yom-Tov?

(a) Why do we think at this stage, that the chicken that laid the egg in our Mishnah cannot have been one that was designated to eat?

(b) What problem do we have if, on the other hand, it is speaking about one that was designated for egg-laying?

(c) We reject the contention that Beis Shamai holds like Rebbi Shimon, who does not hold of (this kind of) Muktzah.
What does Rebbi Shimon say?

(d) On what grounds do we reject this suggestion?

(a) Rav Nachman overrules the above objection.
How does he establish the Machlokes between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel?

(b) In a Mishnah in Shabbos, Beis Shamai permits removing bones and nut- shells from the table.
What do Beis Hillel say?

(c) What does Rav Nachman do with that Mishnah?

(d) Why does this statement of Rav Nachman appear to contradict what he said with regard to the Machlokes between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel in our Mishnah?

(a) In another Mishnah in Shabbos, the Tana permits cutting up gourds for the animals on Shabbos, and a carcass for the dogs.
What is the Chidush ...
  1. ... in the first statement? Why might we have thought that it should be forbidden?
  2. ... in the second statement? When did the animal die? Like whom does this Tana hold?
(b) In another Mishnah, the Tana forbids chopping up beams that have been designated for building purposes, nor from a beam that broke on Yom-Tov. Why is the beam that broke not permitted, seeing as it is now fit to be used as fire-wood?

(c) How do these two Mishnahs help resolve the contradiction between Rav Nachman's two statements?

(d) What prompted Rebbi to be more stringent by Yom-Tov than by Shabbos?

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(a) What is the significance of a S'tam Mishnah? Why did Rebbi present it as such?

(b) Which is more stringent, 'Muktzah' or 'Nolad'?

(c) Seeing as we are concerned with a chicken that was designated for laying eggs, we ask why it is that Rebbi presented the Machlokes by an egg that was laid on Yom-Tov, rather by the chicken itself.
What do we ask on the contention that he did so in order to teach us that Beis Shamai permit, not only Muktzah, but even Nolad as well?

(d) So we answer that Rebbi preferred to teach us the Chidush according to Beis Shamai, because of the principle 'Ko'ach de'Heteira Adif'.
What is the logic behind this principle ?

(a) On what grounds do we retract from the entire explanation of Rav Nachman (that Beis Shamai holds like Rebbi Shimon and Beis Hillel like Rebbi Yehudah - on Yom-Tov)?

(b) Rabah establishes our Mishnah by a chicken that was designated to eat (which explains why they do not argue over the chicken).
Why do Beis Hillel then forbid the egg? Why is it not 'Uchla de'Efras'?

(c) How does Rabah learn this from the Pasuk in Beshalach "ve'Hayah ba'Yom ha'Shishi, ve'Heichinu es Asher Yavi'u"?

(d) Why is an egg ...

  1. ... that is laid on a Yom-Tov that did not fall on Sunday or that was laid on an ordinary Shabbos, forbidden?
  2. ... that is laid on Sunday, permitted?
(a) The Beraisa permits complete eggs that one finds inside a chicken that one Shechted on Yom-Tov.
Why might we have thought that they are forbidden? Why is this not a case of a 'Gezeirah li'Gezeirah'?

(b) Why in fact, did Chazal *not* extend the decree to this case?

(a) Rav Yosef too, establishes our Mishnah by a chicken that was *designated to eat*, and Beis Hillel's reason for forbidding the egg is because of 'Peiros ha'Noshrin'.
What is 'Peiros ha'Noshrin'? Are they Asur mi'd'Oraysa or mi'de'Rabbanan?

(b) Seeing as the reason (that he might climb the tree and pick the fruit) is not applicable by a chicken that lays an egg, then why is an egg that was laid on Yom-Tov not a case of 'Gezeirah li'Gezeirah'?

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