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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) BURIALS ON YOMTOV
(a) (Rava) One who died on the first day of YomTov should
be buried by gentiles but if he died on the second day
of YomTov he should be buried by Jews.
2) MAKING AN EIRUV TAVSHILIN ON THE FIRST DAY OF ROSH HA'SHANAH
FOR THE SECOND DAY
(b) These rules apply also the two days of Rosh ha'Shanah,
but the rules regarding an egg laid are different (on
the second day of YomTov it is permitted but on second
day Rosh ha'Shanah, it is prohibited).
(c) (Neherda'i) The rules for eggs are the same (an egg
laid on the first day of Rosh ha'Shanah is permitted on
the second day).
1. Question: Why would you have thought that it is
(d) (Mar Zutra) Rava's permission for Jews to do the burial
on the second day applies only to a corpse lying from
the first day, but if the person had died on the second
day we postpone the burial (until after YomTov).
2. Answer: Because perhaps Elul was made a full month
(with 30 days, thus making the two days of Rosh
ha'Shanah as Kedushah Achas).
3. This need not be a concern since from the time of
Ezra, Elul was never made a full month, and
therefore the two days of Rosh ha'Shanah are two
(e) (R. Ashi) Rava's permission applies even to a death on
the second day (see Rosh and Rashi for the application
of the Machlokes).
1. Question: Why does the leniency exist?
2. Answer: Because with respect to a corpse, Chazal
made the second day of YomTov like a weekday (it
is even permitted to prepare and tear garments for
the corpse and to cut a myrtle branch for it).
3. (Ravina) Now that there are "Chavri," we do not do
burials on the second day of YomTov.
(a) Ravina saw that R. Ashi was sad on the first day of
Rosh ha'Shanah, and he asked him about it.
3) A CHICK THAT EMERGED FROM ITS EGG ON YOMTOV
(b) R. Ashi responded that he had not made an Eiruv
Tavshilin before YomTov.
(c) Question (Ravina): Then make it now, on the first day
of Rosh ha'Shanah (given Rava's ruling that one may
make an Eiruv Tavshilin on the first day of YomTov for
use on the second day [Chutz la'Aretz-Ma Nafshach])!?
(d) Answer (R. Ashi): That applies only to two days of
YomTov Shel Galus; it does not apply to the two days of
Rosh ha'Shanah (Kedushah Achas).
(e) Question (Ravina): But Neherda'i said that an egg laid
on first day of Rosh ha'Shanah is permitted on the
second day (which proves that they are two Kedushos).
(f) Answer (R. Mordechai): R. Ashi does not agree with
(a) (Rav) A chick born on YomTov is prohibited.
(b) (Shmuel, or R. Yochanan) It is permitted.
(c) Rav prohibits it because it is Muktzeh while Shmuel (or
R. Yochanan) permits it because of "Ho'il" (since the
chick, by being born, becomes permitted to eat through
Shechitah, it also becomes permitted with regard to
(d) Question: According to Rav, why does a chick differ
from a calf born on YomTov (which is permitted)?
(e) Answer (Rav): A calf was Muchan because of its mother
which can be slaughtered.
(f) Question: Why does a chick differ from a calf born from
a Tereifah on YomTov (which is permitted)?
(g) Rav was silent.
(h) Question: Why did Rav not answer that a calf born from
a Tereifah is Muchan because of its mother which can be
fed to dogs?
(i) Answer (Abaye): If something which is Muchan for man is
not considered Muchan for dogs (as Abaye proves from a
Mishnah), then something which is Muchan for dogs
cannot be considered Muchan for man.
4) ANOTHER ARGUMENT CONCERNING A CHICK BORN ON YOMTOV
(j) Question: Rav still should have given this answer.
1. Something which is Muchan for dogs is also Muchan
for man, because man has his mind on everything
which may be fit for him.
(k) A Beraisa supports each, Rav and Shmuel (or R.
2. Something which is Muchan for man is not Muchan
for dogs, because man does not give to dogs what
is fit for use for himself.
3. Hence, Rav should have given this answer.
1. A Beraisa supports Rav, saying that a calf born on
YomTov is permitted, while a chick born on YomTov
is prohibited, the difference being that the calf
was Muchan because of its mother which can be
2. A Beraisa supports Shmuel (or R. Yochanan), saying
that both a calf and a chick born on YomTov is
permitted, the reasons being that the calf is
Muchan because of its mother, and the chick
permits itself to be eaten by Shechitah.
(a) (Tana Kama) A chick born on YomTov is prohibited.
5) A CRYPTIC STATEMENT ABOUT AN EGG
(b) (R. Eliezer b. Yakov) Even when it is born on a
weekday, it is prohibited, because it has not yet
opened its eyes.
(c) A Beraisa was taught in accordance with R. Eliezer b.
(a) (R. Huna citing Rav) An egg is completed upon its exit
from the chicken.
(b) Question: What does this mean?
(c) Answer: It means that the egg may be eaten with milk
upon its exit, but while it is inside the chicken it
may not be eaten with milk.
(d) Question: But a Beraisa states that whole eggs found
within a slaughtered chicken may be eaten with milk!?
(e) Answer: It means that the egg may be eaten on YomTov if
it exited before YomTov, but if it is inside the
chicken at the onset of YomTov it may not be eaten.
(f) Question: But a Beraisa states that eggs found within a
slaughtered chicken on YomTov may be eaten!?
1. Answer: Perhaps the Beraisa is teaching something
that the Mishnah did not teach (Rashi: and thus
the Beraisa is in error).
(g) Answer: Rather, "an egg is completed upon its exit" and
it will bear chicks, whereas an egg inside of the
chicken cannot bear chicks.
2. Question: This was also taught in a Mishnah:
i. Beis Shamai says that an egg laid on YomTov
may be eaten; Beis Hillel says that the egg
may not be eaten.
3. Answer: Perhaps Beis Hillel also prohibits an egg
inside of the chicken, and the Mishnah expresses
the argument with regard to an egg that was laid
to teach us the extent of the Kulah of Beis Shamai
(and the Halachah of the Beraisa is not in the
ii. The argument between Beis Shamai and Beis
Hillel concerns only an egg that was laid;
they both agree that an egg inside of the
chicken is permitted (like the Beraisa).
4. Question: If so, then the Beraisa is in accordance
with neither Beis Shamai nor Beis Hillel!?
5. Answer: It must be that the argument concerns only
an egg that was laid.
6. Question: Then the Beraisa is in accordance with
Beis Hillel, and is not in error, and thus the
Beraisa contradicts this interpretation of Rav
(h) Question: What Halachic difference does this make?
(i) Answer: Regarding a legal transaction, as in the
1. The buyer asked for eggs from a living chicken and
the seller gave him eggs from a slaughtered chick.
2. R. Ami invalidated the sale.
3. Question: But such a sale is obviously invalid!?
4. Answer: We might have considered it only Ona'ah
(which requires that the difference in price be
returned) if we assume that the buyer wanted the
eggs for eating and was only stating his
preference, not making a condition of sale.