POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Introduction to BeitzahBeitzah 2
BEITZAH 2 and 3 - have been dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens,
N.Y., in loving memory of her late husband, Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu
Grunberger. Mr Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner
and is sorely missed by all who knew him. Yahrzeit: 10 Sivan.
1) MISHNAH: THREE KULOS OF BEIS SHAMAI IN HILCHOS YOMTOV
(a) Beitzah Shenoldah
1. (Beis Shamai) An egg laid on YomTov may be eaten.
(b) Issur Chametz
2. (Beis Hillel) The egg may not be eaten.
1. (Beis Shamai) One violates the Issur Chametz only
once one has KaKoseves.
(c) Yachpor b'Deker
2. (Beis Hillel) Like Seor, Chametz is BeKezayis.
1. (Beis Shamai) One may dig in order to perform
2. (Beis Hillel) The dirt must be prepared before
3. Both agree that b'di'Eved, one may dig out the
4. The ashes of a Kirah are Muchan.
(a) Question: What type of chicken laid the egg in (a)?
3) THE ANSWER OF R. NACHMAN
1. Answer: A chicken which was designated to be
2. Question: Then why would Beis Hillel forbid its
egg (Uchla d'Efras)?
3. Answer: It is rather a chicken designated to lay
4. Question: Then it is Muktzeh, and how could Beis
Shamai permit it?
5. Answer: Perhaps Beis Shamai do not hold of Muktzeh
(like R. Shimon).
6. Question: Maybe Nolad is worse than Muktzeh!?
(a) Answer (R. Nachman): The chicken was designated to lay
eggs, and permitting Muktzeh implies permitting Nolad
(b) Question: R. Nachman then seems to contradict himself
regarding the views of Beis Hillel and Beis Shamai!?
1. Here he aligns Beis Hillel with R. Yehudah
(stringent opinion regarding Muktzeh) and Beis
Shamai with R. Shimon (lenient view).
(c) Answer: R. Nachman was only following the cues left by
R. Yehudah HaNasi when he dictated the Stam Mishnayos
and kept Beis Hillel aligned with the Halachah.
2. In the Mishnah dealing with bones and skins on
Shabbos we read that Beis Hillel is Machmir and
Beis Shamai is Meikil (consistent with our
3. Yet, R. Nachman there switches the positions to
align Beis Hillel with R. Shimon and Beis Shamai
with R. Yehudah!
1. By Shabbos the Stam (cited) follows R. Shimon.
4) THE ANSWER OF RABAH
2. By YomTov the Stam (cited) follows R. Yehudah.
(d) Question: Why did R. Yehudah switch the positions?
(e) Answer: There is less concern that people will abuse a
leniency by Shabbos than by YomTov.
(f) Question: If the Mishnah speaks of a chicken designated
for laying eggs, then the Mishnah should teach the
Issur regarding the chicken and we would know the Issur
regarding the egg!?
(g) Answer: To teach us the extent of the Kulah of Beis
Shamai (even Nolad is permitted).
(h) Question: But teaching the Issur would inform us of the
extent of the Chumrah of Beis Hillel!?
(i) Answer: When left with a choice, we teach the strength
of a Kulah.
(j) Question: Then satisfy both needs by combining the
chicken and the egg in the Mishnah!?
(a) Answer (Rabah): Rather, the chicken was designated for
(b) Question: Then why is it Asur?
(c) Answer: Because of Hachanah (YomTov after Shabbos).
1. (Rabah) An egg laid today was prepared yesterday.
(d) Question (Abaye): Then an egg laid on a mid-week YomTov
should be permitted!?
2. (Rabah) From the Pasuk we learn that one may not
prepare on YomTov for Shabbos, nor the reverse.
(e) Answer: It is a Gezeirah lest we permit an egg laid on
YomTov after Shabbos.
(f) Question: Then an egg laid on a regular Shabbos (not
Motzei YomTov) should be permitted!?
(g) Answer: It is a Gezeirah lest we permit an egg laid on
Shabbos after YomTov.
(h) Question: But we learned that eggs found within a
slaughtered chicken on YomTov may be eaten, and are not
subject to a Gezeirah lest we permit eggs born on that
(i) Answer: Rabanan do not apply Gezeiros to improbable
cases such as finding a completed egg in a chicken.