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Bava Basra 175


(a) What did Rav Huna say about a Shechiv-Mera who declared all his property Hekdesh, and then said that one Manah belonged to so-and-so?

(b) What is the reason for this?

(c) What distinction do Rav and Shmuel draw in the case of a Shechiv-Mera who said 'Manah li'Peloni be'Yadi', between whether he said 'T'nu' or not?

(d) What is the reason for the Reisha of Rav and Shmuel's ruling?

(a) What Kashya does Rav Nachman ask from the Reisha of Rav and Shmuel on Rav Huna's previous ruling?

(b) On what grounds do we reject the answer that Rav Huna is speaking when P'loni is holding a Sh'tar? What problem will that pose on the Seifa of Rav and Shmuel?

(c) Why will the principle 'Mitzvah Le'kayem Divrei ha'Meis' not apply there, in any case?

(d) So Rav Nachman establishes both cases when P'loni is holding a Sh'tar. How does he then explain the difference between the Reisha and the Seifa of Rav and Shmuel?

(e) How does Rav Huna then speak?

(a) If a Shechiv-Mera says 'Manah li'Peloni be'Yadi', Rabah believes the Yesamim to say that they paid.
What does he say in a case where he said 'T'nu Manah li'Peloni', and the Yesomim claim that they have paid?

(b) On what grounds do we repudiate this dual ruling? What does 'K'lapei Laya' mean?

(c) So we amend Rabah's statement.
What did he really say about a case of ...

  1. ... 'Manah li'Peloni be'Yadi'?
  2. ... 'T'nu Manah li'Peloni'?
(a) What is the Din in a case where Reuven claims money from Shimon, who admits to the claim in front of two witnesses? What is still required before the witnesses can tie him down to his admission?

(b) Why is that?

(a) What She'eilah does Rava ask about a Shechiv-Mera who admits to the claim of a claimant?

(b) What second She'eilah does he ask?

(c) How does Rava resolve ...

  1. ... the first She'eilah?
  2. ... the second She'eilah?
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(a) What distinction does our Mishnah draw between whether Reuven lends Shimon money with a Sh'tar or without one?

(b) What will be the Din if Acharayus is not writen in the Sh'tar?

(c) Why, if Reuven produces a signed i.o.u. that Shimon owes him money, can he only claim from B'nei-Chorin, and not from Mehubadim?

(a) Why, if Arvus appears on the Sh'tar after the witnesses signatures, can the creditor only claim from the Areiv's B'nei-Chorin?

(b) This is the opinion of Rebbi Yishmael. Acordding to ben Nannes, he cannot even claim from his B'nei-Chorin either.
Why not?

(c) What Mashal did ben Nennes give to illustrate this?

(d) Rebbi Yishmael declared that the way to become wise is to study Diynei Mamonos, which he compared to a self-generating fountain.
How did he advise going about this?

(a) On what grounds does Ula permit claiming a Milveh al Peh (an oral loan) from Meshubadim min ha'Torah?

(b) So why did the Chachamim forbid it?

(c) Why did they not extend this decree to a Milveh bi'Sh'tar (a documented loan)?

(d) Where is Ula's source for 'Shibuda d'Oraysa'?

(a) Rabah holds 'Shibuda La'av d'Oraysa'.
What is therefore the Torah law with regard to claiming from the purchasers?

(b) Then what is the source for claiming Meshubadim from the purchasers?

(c) Why did the Chachamim not decree by an oral loan too?

(d) According to Rabah, how will we then interpret the Pasuk "Yotzi Eilecha es he'Avot"?

(a) Rabah ruled in 'Yesh Nochlin' 'Gavu Karka, Yesh Lo, Ma'os, Ein Lo'.
What was he referring to?

(b) What problem does this create?

(c) Why is it not feasible to resolve the discrepancy by switching the opinions of Rabah and Ula? What did Ula say about a Ba'al-Chov claiming Ziburis?

(d) How do we then resolve it? Whose opinion was Rabah discussing in 'Yesh Nochlin'?

(a) Rav and Shmuel argue with Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish over the same point as Ula and Rabah.
What does each pair hold?

(b) The Beraisa discusses Reuven who is digging a pit in the Reshus ha'Rabim when Shimon's ox falls into it killing him.
What does the Tana rule with regard to ...

  1. ... the ox having killed Reuven?
  2. ... Shimon's heirs having to pay damages should the ox die?
(c) How does this pose a Kashya on Rav and Shmuel?
(a) How does Rebbi Ila'a Amar Rav establish the case to resolve the Kashya?

(b) How does Rav Ada bar Ahavah establish the case further, in view of the fact that the Beraisa says 'Hargo'?

(c) And what do we add to that in light of Rav Nachman, who said 'Meis ve'Kavro'? Who buried whom?

(a) On what grounds does Rav Papa rule that one may
  1. ... claim an oral loan from the heirs ...
  2. ... but not from the purchasers?
(b) What does Rav Papa hold with regard to Shibuda? Is it d'Oraysa or de'Rabbanan?
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