REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 141
BAVA BASRA 141 (30 Av) - This daf has been dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Esther
Chaya Rayzel (Friedman) bas Gershon Eliezer, upon her Yahrzeit and Yom
Kevurah, by her daughter and son-in-law, Jeri and Eli Turkel. Esther
Friedman was a woman of valor who was devoted to her family and gave of
herself unstintingly, inspiring all those around her.
(a) Based on the Pasuk in Tzefanyah "Yom Evrah ha'Yom ha'Hu", what does
Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai learn from the Lashon
of the Pasuk in Pinchas "ve'Ha'avartem es Nachalaso le'Bito"?
(b) How do we reconcile this with our Mishnah, where the father gives one
Manah for a boy, but two for a girl? What does 'le'Inyan Harvachah' mean?
(c) According to Shmuel, our Mishnah is talking about a firstborn daughter,
like Rav Chisda said.
What did Rav Chisda say?
(d) Assuming that Rav Chisda was not referring to a firstborn child, what
did he mean when he said that he preferred daughters to sons?
(a) Rebbi Meir in a Beraisa, explains the Pasuk in Chayei Sarah "va'Hashem
Beirach es Avaham ba'Kol" to mean that Avraham did not have a daughter.
Why is that a B'rachah?
(b) How does Rebbi Yehudah explain this Pasuk?
(c) How do we refute the suggestion that this is the Rebbi Yehudah referred
to in the third alternative to explain why the father gave more for a
daughter than for a son?
(a) We therefore cite Rebbi Yehudah in another Beraisa. Rebbi Meir says that
it is a Mitzvah to sustain one's daughters, 'Kal va'Chomer' one's sons.
What is the 'Kal va'Chomer'?
(b) And it is like Rebbi Yehudah here who argues with Rebbi Meir that we
establish our Mishnah. What does Rebbi Yehudah say?
(c) We ask on this from the Beraisa 'Yaldah Zachar u'Nekeivah, ha'Zachar
Notel Shishah Dinrim'. The Tana there says that if the man's wife gave birth
to a boy and a girl, the boy receives six (golden) Dinrim.
How much is
that in ...
(d) How much does the daughter receive?
- ... Manim?
- ... Zuzim (or Dinrim)?
(a) How much is each one to receive if the daughter was born first?
(b) When Rav Ashi presented this Sugya to Rav Kahana, the latter established
the Beraisa by Mesares.
What does 'Mesares' mean?
(c) He stipulated that if the son was born first, he would receive two Manah
and the daughter, nothing.
How much would each one receive in the event
that the daughter was born first?
(d) In fact, they were not sure which one was born first.
How do we then
explain the six and two Dinrim respectively, that each one receives
according to the Beraisa?
(a) Another Beraisa says 'Yaldah Zachar u'Nekeivah, Ein Lo Ela Manah'.
Ravina establishes this Beraisa like yet another Beraisa.
Answers to questions
What does the
Tana there say in the case where the husband declares 'ha'Mevasreini ba'Meh
Niftar Rachmah shel Ishti; Im Zachar, Yitol Manah; Im Nekeivah, Titol Manah
Yaldah Zachar u'Nekeivah, Ein Lo Ela Manah' (in fact, the previous Beraisa
is probably the Seifa of this one)?
(b) How can the Tana conclude like that when the husband himself did not
mention that this possibility?
(c) Why does the Tana conclude 'Ein Lo *Ela* Manah'? How much might we have
thought the Mevaser receives in this case?
(d) Seeing as the Mevaser receives a Manah in all the cases, what is the
point of mentioning them all? What is the husband coming to exclude?
(a) If a husband declares that his property is to go to the baby with whom
his wife is pregnant, Rav Huna rules 'ha'Mezakeh le'Ubar Lo Kanah'.
(b) What did Rav Nachman ask Rav Huna from our Mishnah 'ha'Omer, Im Yaldah
Ishti Zachar, Yitol Manah ... '?
(c) What did Rav Huna reply?
(d) Rav Nachman too, holds 'ha'Mezakeh le'Ubar, Lo Kanah'.
So how will
*he* explain our Mishnah?
(a) To dispense with the Kashya on Rav Huna, we try to establish our Mishnah
like Rebbi Meir, who holds 'Adam Makneh Davar she'Lo Bo le'Olam' (and like
whom Rav Huna actually holds).
On what grounds do we reject this
(b) Then we try to establish it like Rebbi Yossi.
What does Rebbi Yossi
mean when he says (in the Mishnah in Yevamos) ...
(c) On what grounds do we reject that suggestion too?
- ... 'Ubar Posel'?
- ... 've'Eino Ma'achil'?
(a) Then we try to establish the author as Rebbi Yochanan ben Berokah.
does he say about bequeathing all one's property to one of his sons?
(b) On what grounds do we reject the proposition that he is the one who
holds that one can be Mezakeh on behalf of someone who is not yet born, and
that he will therefore be the author of our Mishnah?
(c) And on what grounds do we then reject the suggestion that maybe Rebbi
Yochanan ben Berokah also holds like Rebbi Yossi ('ha'Mezakeh le'Ubar
Koneh'), and is actually speaking in that case?
(a) Finally, how do we refute the suggestion that our Mishnah is speaking in
a case ...
Answers to questions
(b) And why can we not establish it when the husband specifically stipulates
that the baby will only receive the money after he is born?
- ... of 'Mevasreni' (like the Beraisa earlier), where he is giving money, not to the Ubar, but to the one who gives him the news?
- ... where the baby has already been born?