REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 136
BAVA BASRA 136 (25 Av)- dedicated by Mrs. G. Kornfeld for the second Yahrzeit
of her mother, Mrs. Gisela Turkel (Golda bas Chaim Yitzchak Ozer), an
exceptional woman with an iron will who loved and respected the study of
(a) Rebbi Yehudah requires a Bari who is writing out his property to his
sons, to write in the Sh'tar 'me'Hayom u'le'Achar Miysah'.
Why is that?
(b) Why would a person want to write out his property (without the Peiros)
to his sons in his lifetime?
(c) What does Rebbi Yossi say?
(a) What does our Mishnah say, in a case where a father writes all his
property to his son ...
(b) Would it make any difference if the 'father' were to write the property
not to his son, but to someone else?
- ... concerning the father selling the property, or the son selling it whilst his father is still alive?
- ... in the event that the father did sell it?
- ... in the event that the son sold it?
(c) We are speaking about either the father or the son, selling the entire
Is there any possibility for the two of them to sell the entire
property between them immediately?
(d) What would be the Din in the above case if, after the father sold the
Peiros, first the son, and then the father, died? Who would receive the Guf
and the subsequent Peiros of the father's property?
(a) What does the Mishnah in Gitin say about someone who gives his wife a
Get 'me'Hayom u'le'Achar Miysah'?
(b) How do we reconcile this with our Mishnah, which validates 'me'Hayom
u'le'Achar Miysah', as we just learned?
(a) What did Rav Nachman reply when Rav Huna asked him to ask Rabah bar
Avuhah whether the Halachah was like Rebbi Yossi in our Mishnah or not? Why
was he hesitant to comply with Rav Huna's request?
(b) What were they both doing by Rabah bar Avuhah?
(c) Rav Huna instructed him to ask anyway, promising that *he* would supply
What did Rabah bar Avuhah reply? Whom did he quote?
(d) What reason did Rav Huna subsequently give for Rebbi Yossi's ruling?
(a) How will we reconcile the above ruling of Rav with his ruling in Gitin,
where he requires the insertion of the date like Rebbi Yehudah? How do we
know that he did not simply retract there from his opinion here?
(b) What can we comment on the Ge'onim, who cite the Minhag in the Yeshivah
like Rebbi Yehudah, even by Mamon?
(c) Rava asked Rav Nachman whether Rebbi Yehudah argues even in the case of
a Sh'tar which contains a Kinyan.
What did Rav Nachman reply?
(d) This means that Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yossi argue when there is no
How does one then acquire the property?
(a) Rav Papi disagrees with Rav Nachman however. He makes a distinction
between 'Aknaya u'Kenina Mineih' and 'Kenina Mineih ve'Aknaya'.
these two sets of terms appeared in a regular Sh'tar with a Kinyan?
(b) According to Rebbi Yehudah, why does ...
(c) Rav Chanina mi'Sura claimed that most Chachamim had never heard of this
distinction, and he was surprised that the Sofrim had.
- ... 'Aknaya u'Kenina Mineih' not require 'me'ha'Yom u'le'Achar Miysah'?
- ... 'Kenina Mineih ve'Aknaya' nevertheless require 'me'ha'Yom u'le'Achar Miysah'?
What are the
ramifications of his Kashya?
(d) What did the Sofrim of Abaye and of Rava reply when this was put to
(a) According to Rav Huna B'rei de'Rav Yehoshua however, there is no
difference between 'Aknaya u'Kenina Mineih' and 'Kenina Mineih ve'Aknaya'.
Whose opinion is he echoing?
Answers to questions
(b) Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yossi argue, he says, in a case of 'be'Duchran
Pisgami de'Havi be'Anpana'.
What does he mean by that?
(c) When Rav Kahana cited this entire Sugya to Rav Z'vid, he replied that
his version of Rava Amar Rav Nachman's statement concurred with Rav Huna
B'rei de'Rav Yehoshua.
What was his version of Rava's original statement?
(a) According to Rebbi Yochanan, if, after the son sold the property, he
died, the purchaser will not receive it when the father dies.
(b) Does this contradict this with what we explained in the Mishnah (that
Rebbi Yochanan concedes that the son's heirs will inherit their
grandfather's property, even if he died only after their father)?
(c) What can we infer from the Seifa of our Mishnah, 'Machar ha'Ben Ein
le'Loke'ach ad she'Yamus ha'Av?
(d) How will we then reconcile this with Rebbi Yochanan's ruling?
(a) Resh Lakish disagrees with Rebbi Yochanan.
In what way does his
interpretation of the Seifa of our Mishnah differ from that of Rebbi
(b) Why is that?
(c) In another Machlokes, Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish argue over whether
someone who purchases a field for the Peiros reads the Parshah when bringing
Bikurim or not.
What does each one hold? What is the basis of their
(d) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Ki Savo "Asher Tavi me'Artz'cha"?
(a) Having taught us in the case of Bikurim that 'Kinyan Peiros ...
(b) How else could we have explained the 'Tz'richusa' from the point of view
- ... ke'Kinyan ha'Guf Dami', why did Rebbi Yochanan find it necessary to repeat this ruling with regard to our case (of 'Machar ha'Ben')?
- ... La'av ke'Kinyan ha'Guf Dami', why did Resh Lakish find it necessary to repeat it with regard to our case?
- ... Rebbi Yochanan?
- ... Resh Lakish?
(a) In a case where Reuven gives property to Shimon (to acquire after his
death), but stipulates 've'Acharecha li'Peloni, ve'Acharav Yirash P'loni',
what does the Beraisa (which we already cited earlier) rule in the event
(b) What Kashya does Rebbi Yochanan ask from there on Resh Lakish?
- ... Shimon dies?
- ... the second one (Acharecha) dies?
- ... the second one dies in Shimon's lifetime? Why does the third one not inherit it?
(c) Resh Lakish reminds Rebbi Yochanan however, that Rav Hoshaya (as well as
Rav), have already answered the Kashya for him.
What did Rav Hoshaya mean
when he said 'Acharecha Sha'ani'?
(a) What is then the problem with another Beraisa, which specifically states
'Yachzeru le'Yorshei Nosen'? On whom is the Kashya?
Answers to questions
(b) How do we basically answer the Kashya?
(c) On what grounds do we refute the text which reads 'Ela Acharecha Nami