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Bava Basra 126

BAVA BASRA 126-128 - have been generously dedicated by Dick and Beverly Horowitz of Los Angeles, California. May they be blessed with a life of joy and much Nachas from their children and grandchildren.


(a) What does Rav Huna Amar Rav Asi mean when he says 'Bechor she'Michah Michah'?

(b) What is the underlying reason behind this ruling?

(a) Rabah qualifies Rav Asi's ruling, confining it to where the brothers picked the grapes or the olives.
What are then the ramifications of Rav Asi's ruling?

(b) In which case would the Bechor not receive an extra portion in this way?

(c) What would the Bechor then receive (with regard to the Cheilek Bechorah)?

(a) What problem do we have with Rav Yosef who says 'Afilu Darchum'?

(b) To explain Rav Yosef, we cite a statement of Rav Ukva bar Chama.
What does Rav Ukva bar Chama say?

(c) In which point does Rav Yosef now argue with Rav Asi?

(a) Rav Asi rules 'Bechor she'Natal Cheilek Pashut, Viter'.
What he mean by that?

(b) What is the basis for Rav Asi's ruling?

(a) Rav Papa and Rav Papi argue over what Rava said in this regard. According to Rav Papa, Rava said 'Viter be'Osah Sadeh'.
What does Rav Papi say?

(b) What is the basis of their Machlokes?

(c) What is the basic reason for the ruling of ...

  1. ... Rav Papa's ruling? Why is the Bechor not able to be Mochel the Cheilek Bechorah?
  2. ... Rav Papi's ruling? On what grounds do we assume that he has been Mochel the entire Cheilek Bechorah?
(d) Can he or any of the brother's be Mochel their Cheilek Pashut too?
(a) Did Rav Papa and Rav Papi issue their respective rulings directly?

(b) A certain Bechor sold property belonging to himself and his brother.
What exactly did he sell?

(c) What ...

  1. ... happened to his brother's children when they went to eat some of the fruit?
  2. ... did the relatives say to the purchasers?
(d) Rava ruled 'Lo Asah ve'Lo K'lum'.
What argument now arose between Rav Papa and Rav Papi, with regard to Rava's ruling?
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(a) 'Shalchu mi'Tam, Bechor she'Machar Kodem Chalukah, Lo Asah K'lum' because they hold 'Ein Lo li'Bechor Kodem Chalukah'.
What is the Halachah?

(b) What did Rav Ashi say to Mar Zutra from Darishba, who was a Bechor, when he divided equally a basket of peppers between himself and his brothers?

(a) On what grounds does our Mishnah invalidate a father's statement ...
  1. ... 'Ish P'loni B'ni Bechor'?
  2. ... 'Ish P'loni B'ni Lo Yirash Im Echav'?
(b) What would the father need to say if he wanted to declare his son the Bechor to inherit a double portion?

(c) Is it at all possible for a person to deprive one of his sons of his inheritance?

(d) Such a procedure would normally require a Kinyan.
When is a Kinyan not necessary?

(a) The Tana permits a father to give even the Cheilek Bechorah to one of his sons, provided he uses a Lashon Matanah.
Who is the author of our Mishnah? Who would permit even using a Lashon Yerushah?

(b) Then why does the Tana present specifically a case of brothers and not strangers?

(c) And in which case will the Rabbanan concede that even if the father uses a Lashon Yerushah, his words are valid?

(a) Rebbi Meir invalidates any condition that absolves a husband from providing his betrothed wife with food, clothes and marital rights.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b) We therefore suggest that the author of our Mishnah, which negates a stipulation that discounts an heir from inheriting (a Davar she'be'Mamon), cannot be Rebbi Yehudah.
What would be the problem with that?

(c) How do we reconcile our Mishnah with Rebbi Yehudah? Why might even he negate the stipulation in the case of our Mishnah?

(a) What did Rabah bar bar Chanah rule in a case where witnesses testified that someone was a Bechor (regarding inheritance) on the basis of the fact that his father referred to him as 'a foolish Bechor'?

(b) What advice did Shichchas father give people who complained to him that they had a pain in their eye?

(c) Rebbi Chanina accepted their testimony. How did he know Shichchas was the Bechor of his father and not [just] of his mother?

(a) What is a Tumtum?

(b) What is a Tumtum she'Nikra"?

(a) In connection with a Tumtum she'Nikra, what does ...
  1. ... Rebbi Ami learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "*ve'Hayah* ha'Ben *ha'Bechor* la'Seni'ah"?
  2. ... Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak learn from the Pasuk there "Ki *Yih'yeh* le'Ish ben Sorer u'Moreh"?
  3. ... Ameimar learn from the Pasuk there "ve'Yaldu Lo Banim ... ve'Hayah Bein ha'Bechor"?
(b) What is the case with regard to the latter Halachah?

(c) How do we learn this from the above Pasuk?

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