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Bava Basra 75

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(a) When Rav Dimi came from Eretz Yisrael, he explained in the name of Rebbi Yonasan how the Angel Gavriel is going to hunt the Livyasan with bow and spear.
What will be the result of this great hunt?

(b) And quoting Rebbi Yochanan, he explained how, when the Livyasan becomes hungry, it emits hot breath from its mouth, which heats up all the water in the depths of the sea.
What saves the world from succumbing to the foul smell of its breath?

(c) And when it is thirsty, he continues, it threshes so violently, that it causes deep 'furrows' to appear in the sea.
How long does it take for the sea to return to its former calm and fullness?

(a) What, according to Rabah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, will Hashem do with the Livyasan in time to come?

(b) We derive this from the Pasuk in Iyov (whose Sefer is also the source of most of the current Sugya) "Yichru Alav *Chaverim*". What do we then learn in this connection from the Pasuk in Shir Hashirim "ha'Yosheves ba'Ganim *Chaverim* Makshivim le'Kolech Hashmi'ini"?

(c) What will happen to the flesh that is not eaten?

(d) Rebbi Yochanan learns this from the Pasuk there 'Yachtzuhu Bein *Cana'anim*".
What do we learn in this connection, from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "Asher Sochrehah Sarim, *Cana'anehah* Nichbadei Aretz"?

(a) The Livyasan's skin, says Rebbi Yochanan, will be used to make a Sucah for those who are worthy.
What are the implications of 'Sucah', as opposed to 'Sikuch'?

(b) Those who are less deserving, will only receive a belt made out of its skin. There are those who are even less worthy, and those who are less worthy still.
What will they receive, respectively?

(c) The remainder of the skin will be used too.
What function will it serve, based on the Pasuk in Yeshayah "ve'Halchu Goyim le'Orech, u'Melachim le'Nogah Zarchech"?

(a) According to Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeni, two angels argue over the interpretation of the Pasuk in Yeshayah "ve'Samti Kadkod Shimshosayich". What are their names?

(b) What do Yehudah and Chizkiyah, sons of Rebbi Chiya have to do with this?

(c) What does "Shimshosayich" mean?

(d) They are arguing over whether the stones of Yerushalayim will be made of onyx stones or jasper.
Based on the word "Kadkod" (in the above Pasuk), what did Hashem comment?

(a) Based on the Pasuk in Yeshayah "u'She'arayich Avnei Ekdach", what, according to Rebbi Yochanan, is Hashem going to do with those precious stones (carbuncle) that will measure thirty Amos by thirty Amos? What size will the gates be?

(b) Why did that Talmid scoff at his words?

(c) What caused him to change his mind?

(d) How did Rebbi Yochanan react when the Talmid endorsed his statement, based on what he had seen?

(a) On what grounds does Rebbi Meir Darshen the Pasuk in Bechukosai "va'Olech Eschem Komemiyus" to mean that we will all be two hundred Amos tall? What does this have to do with Adam ha'Rishon?

(b) Why does Rebbi Yehudah limit our height to one hundred Amos at that time?

(c) How does this pose a Kashya on Rebbi Yochanan?

(d) How do we amend the meaning of "She'arayich" to dispense with the Kashya?

(a) What does Rabah Amar Rebbi Yochanan learn from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "u'Bara Hashem al Kol Machon ... ve'al Mikra'ehah", which contains the phrases "Anan Yomam", "Ashan", "Nogah", "Eish", "Lehavah", "Chupah" and "ve'Sukah Tih'yeh le'Tzeil Yomam"?

(b) And what does he learn from the Pasuk there "Ki al Kol Kavod Chupah"?

(c) What is the significance of ...

  1. ... the smoke?
  2. ... the fire?
(d) What concluding comment do we make on that?
(a) What does Rabah Amar Rebbi Yochanan Darshen from the previous Pasuk "ve'al Mikra'ehah", to draw a distinction between the Beis Hamikdash of old and the one of the future?

(b) How did the elders of the generation in the desert explain the Pasuk in Pinchas "ve'Nasata me'Hodcha Alav"? What did they extrapolate from the 'Mem' in "me'Hodcha"?

(c) Why did they find that so embarrassing?

(a) Rebbi Chama b'Rebbi Chanina extrapolates from a Pasuk in Yechezkel that Hashem made ten Chupos for Adam in Gan Eden.
What does Mar Zutra say?

(b) What does Rebbi Yochanan comment, based on the fact that gold is the last precious material to be mentioned in the Pasuk?

(c) And based on the Pasuk there "Meleches Tupayich ve'Nikvayich Bach", what did Hashem tell Chiram, King of Tyre? What had Chiram done?

(d) How do others word Hashem's statement?

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(a) What does Rabah Amar Rebbi Yochanan learn (in connection with Tzadikim) from the Pasuk in Yeshayah "Kol ha'Nikra bi'Shemi ve'li'Chevodi Berasiv ... "?

(b) Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeni Amar Rebbi Yonasan adds two other things to the list.
What does he include from the Pasuk ...

  1. ... in Yirmiyah "ve'Zeh Shemo, Asher Yikre'u, Hashem Tzidkeinu"?
  2. ... in Yechezkel " ... ve'Shem ha'Ir mi'Yom Hashem Shamah"? How does Rebbi Yonasan read "Hashem Shamah"?
(c) According to Rebbi Elazar, what will one say before the Tzadikim, like one says now before Hashem?
(a) According to Rabah Amar Rebbi Yochanan, what will happen to the topography of Yerushalayim in time to come?

(b) Why specifically three Parsah?

(c) Does this mean that people will have to cope with a difficult ascent to get to it?

(d) What does Rav Papa extrapolate from here regarding clouds?

(a) On what grounds did the angels protest when Hashem wanted to measure Yerushalayim? Which two things, besides Hashem's Name, did they refer to that Yerushalayim contained?

(b) Hashem responded by telling the Navi to run after the lad. What message was he to convey to him?

(c) Resh Lakish teaches us that Yerushalayim in time to come will be very much larger than it was.
Gardens will be a thousand times Tafaf; towers, a thousand times Kapal; mansions a thousand times Litzo; small mansions, a thousand and two times Shiloh.
What do 'Tafaf', 'Kapal', 'Litzo', and 'Shiloh' all have in common (see Rabeinu Gershom)?

(d) And all of these will be like Tzipori in the era of its tranquillity.
How does Rebbi Yossi describe this in terms of markets?

(e) How does Rebbi Levi (or Rav Papi) quoting Rebbi Yehoshua from Sichni, explain the number thirty-three, cited by the Pasuk in Yechezkel in connection with Yerushalayim in time to come?

(a) According to Rav, one acquires a ship (with Meshichah) as soon as one has moved it however slightly.
What does Shmuel say?

(b) How does one acquire an animal with Mesirah?

(a) To acquire an animal with Meshichah, the Tana of the Beraisa requires it to move its fore or hind-legs.
In which two ways does the Tana describe Meshichah?

(b) In which point does Rebbi Achi (or Rebbi Acha) disagree with the Tana Kama?

(c) How do we initially connect the Machlokes between Rav and Shmuel with that of the Tana Kama of the Beraisa and Rebbi Achi?

(d) How do we reconcile ...

  1. ... Rav with Rebbi Achi? Why might Rebbi Achi concede that one acquires a ship even by moving it slightly?
  2. ... Shmuel with theTana Kama? Why might the Tana Kama concede that a ship must move its entire length in order to acquire it?
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