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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Basra 7
BAVA BASRA 7 (Nisan 14) - dedicated by Rabbi Kornfeld's father l'Iluy
Nishmas his grandmother, Chayah bas Aryeh Leib Shpira (nee Sole), on the day
of her Yahrzeit.
(a) If Shimon initially agreed to rebuild the house should the lower floor
sink into the ground, the Tana informs us, then he must comply with that
condition (see Chidushei Anshei Sheim). To determine how far theceiling may
sink before the house is considered uninhabitable, we cite Mar Zutra quoting
his father, Rav Nachman - who gives the minimum height of a ceiling as the
length plus the breadth divided by two.
(b) He learned this from the Heichal (of the Beis-Hamikdash), which was
forty Amos long, twenty Amos wide and thirty Amos high.
(c) When they quoted Rabah (or Rava) Mar Zutra's statement - he scolded
them for misrepresenting Rav Nachman.
(d) According to him, for an apartment to become uninhabitable, the ceiling
may sink up to the point - that the owner can enter his house in the normal
manner, meaning with a bundle of long canes on his shoulders, and is still
able to turn round in all directions without hitting into a low beam, as Rav
Huna B'rei de'Rav Yehoshua puts it (Presumably, Rav Nachman was referring to
the ideal height of a ceiling, not the lowest).
(a) When, due to the fact that Reuven's wall prevented light from entering
Shimon's windows, Shimon ...
1. ... complained, Reuven offered to seal his windows and build new ones at
a point that was higher than his wall.
(b) The basis of Shimon's last two claims is - that new cement and old
cement do not bind together well.
2. ... declined his offer, because building new windows into an old wall
would weaken the wall - he offered to break down the top part of the wall of
Shimon's house, as far as his wall, and to rebuild it with windows at a
point higher than his wall.
3. ... declined that offer too, on the grounds that a wall that is half old
and half new, will not last - he offered to demolish the entire wall and
rebuild it, again with windows higher than his wall.
4. ... insisted that this too, was no good, since one new wall in an old
house will not last either - he offered to demolish the entire house and
rebuild it, once again with the windows higher than his own wall.
(c) When Shimon even declined to have Reuven rebuild his house from scratch,
because he had nowhere to live in the interim - he offered to rent him a
(d) Here too, lie before, Rav Chama ruled that Shimon had acted within his
rights in declining to accept all of Reuven's offers. Despite the similarity
between the two previous cases, we need to cite the second case - which
speaks when Shimon was using the house (not as a residence but) as a
storehouse for straw and wood. And this teaches us that a neighbor is
entitled to be fussy about the conditions under which his goods are being
stored, no less than he is about the conditions under which he resides.
(a) We cite a case where Reuven chose the banqueting hall that his deceased
father had left behind, and Shimon his brother, the garden in front of it.
When Reuven complained that the wall that Shimon built in his garden,
darkened his palace the latter replied - that he had built it in his own
domain (and there was nothing that Reuven could do about it).
(b) Here too, Rav Chama substantiated Shimon's claim. Ravina asked Rav Ashi
from a Beraisa. The Tana there says that if one of two brothers took the
vineyard that his deceased father left behind, and the other, the
wheat-field - the former is entitled to the four Amos that are required to
work the vineyard.
(c) Rav Ashi reconciles Rav Chama with this Beraisa, by establishing the
latter - when they came to terms over the fact that a vineyard is worth much
more than a corn-field, and the latter therefore had to pay the former for
this advantage, including the four Amos Avodas of ha'Kerem. Whereas the case
of Rav Chama speaks when they did not come to terms, allowing the owner of
the garden to do whatever he saw fit in his garden.
(d) Ravina then asked Rav Ashi further whether the brother who chose the
garden rather than the banqueting hall without coming to terms, was not
crazy, to which to which he replied - that he had certainly come to terms
over the value of the bricks and beams, but not over the air of the
(a) The brother who chose the banqueting-hall cannot claim that he picked
the banqueting-hall, which, due to the current darkness, was now reduced to
an ordinary room - because the banqueting-hall remained a banqueting-hall in
name, even if was no longer as posh as it originally was.
(b) Rav Shimi bar Ashi bases this on a Beraisa. The Tana there says in a
case of 'ha'Omer Beis-Kur Afar Ani Mocher Lach, Af-al-Pi she'Eino Ela
Lesech' ([half a Kur] or 'Pardes O Kerem Ani Mocher Lach, Af-al-Pi she'Ein
Bo Rimonim O Gefanim') - 'Higi'o', because he only meant to sell him
something that was called 'a Beis-Kur', 'a Pardes' and 'a Kerem'
respectively, provided that they really were called by that name.
(c) Ravina objects to this answer however - because one can sell an article
on whichever condition one pleases, but a son who picks an article from his
father's inheritance, expects to use it in the same way as his father did?
(a) Mar Yenuka and Mar Keshisha - Rav Chisda's sons, answered Ravina's
(b) 'Neherda'i le'Ta'amaihu', they said (since Rav Chama was from
Neherda'a). Rav Nachman Amar Shmuel ruled that brothers who divided their
father's inheritance - do not have the right to a path through their
brothers fields to get to their own, nor any claims to build windows to
create more light, nor the right to place ladders in their brothers Chatzer
to get to their attics.
(c) This constitutes 'Neherda'i le'Ta'amaihu - because Shmuel was also from
(d) This vindicates Rav Chama - because we now see that the Neherda'i do not
require the son to use the property in the same way as their father did.
(e) Rava disagrees with the Neherda'i. He holds - that each brother is
entitled to all these rights.
(a) In a case where Yesomim produced a Sh'tar against the debtor, who
produced a receipt, Rav Chama ruled - that we neither accept their claim
(because of the receipt), nor do we tear up the Sh'tar-Chov (in case the
Yesomim succeed in invalidating the receipt when they grow up).
(b) Ravina told Rav Acha B'rei de'Rava that, whereas in all the previous
cases, the Halachah was like Rav Chama, in this case it was not - because
there were no grounds to query the Chezkas Kashrus of the witnesses on the
(c) Mar Zutra B'rei de'Rav Mari disagreed with Ravina - on the grounds that
the debtor ought to have produced the receipt during the lifetime of the
father (assuming that he too, claimed from the debtor [Ritva]). Since he did
not, it seems that the receipt is forged.
(a) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah obligates every member of the Chatzer to
pay towards the costs of building a Beis Sha'ar and a Deles (as we have
already discussed). Raban Shimon ben Gamliel maintains - that not all
Chatzeros require a Beis-Sha'ar.
(b) The three things that the Tana Kama obligates all residents in a town to
share in the costs of - a wall, doors and a bolt.
(c) In order to be considered a member of the town in this regard - one
needs to have lived there for twelve months.
(d) One would be considered a member immediately however - upon purchasing a
house in the town.
(a) Eliyahu cease to communicate with a certain Chasid with whom he had
previously communicated regularly - because he built a Beis-Sha'ar to his
Chatzer, thereby preventing the poor from obtaining help when they called
from outside the locked door and nobody would hear them.
(b) We reconcile this episode with our Mishnah in a number of ways.
Initially, we distinguish between whether the Beis-Sha'ar is inside the
Chatzer (the episode with Eliyahu) - in which case it was normally locked,
and the poor would be denied access, or outside in the street (our Mishnah),
where it normally had no door and the poor man had easy access to the
(c) The episode with Eliyahu could be speaking even if the Beis-Sha'ar was
on the outside, assuming that it had a door. On the other hand, we might
even establish our Mishnah when it has ...
1. ... a door - but no lock, or ...
2. ... a lock - but which is on the outside of the door, with the key fitted
(a) When Raban Shimon ben Gamliel says that ...
1. ... not all Chatzeros require a Beis-Sha'ar - he is referring to those
that do not lead on to a main street.
(b) With regard to ...
2. ... not all towns require doors - he is referring to those that are not
near the border.
1. ... a Chatzer requiring a Beis-Sha'ar, the Rabbanan counter - that
sometimes there is an overflow from the nearest main road, even though the
Chatzer does not lead directly on to it.
2. ... a town requiring doors, the Rabbanan counter - that sometimes the
enemy attacks even towns that are not on the border.
(a) Rebbi Elazar asked Rebbi Yochanan whether the residents of the town must
pay per capita or according to their means. In fact, Rebbi Yochanan holds of
neither suggestion. He holds - that they pay according to their proximity to
(b) His concluding words on the matter were - 've'Elazar B'ni, K'va Bo
Mismoros' (meaning that he should fix this ruling in his mind and not waver
(c) In the second Lashon, Rebbi Yochanan gave Resh Lakish the same reply.
The She'eilah was - whether they pay according to their proximity to the
wall or according to their means.
(a) When Rebbi Yehudah Nesi'a (Rebbi's grandson) asked the Chachamim to pay
towards the costs of building the city-walls - Resh Lakish informed him that
the Chachamim do not require guarding and are therefore not subject to this
(b) The Pasuk "Asaprem me'Chol Yirbun" ('I will count them, and they are
more numerous than the sand') cannot refer to the Tzadikim - because we have
learned in a Pasuk in Vayeira that the whole of Yisrael are only as numerous
as the sand on the seashore (so how can the Tzadikim alone be more than
(c) Consequently, it must be referring to their good deeds.
(d) Resh Lakish now extrapolates from the sand - that if the sand which is
numerous, protects the sea-shore, then the good deeds of the Tzadikim, which
are more numerous still, should certainly protect the Tzadikim.
(a) Rebbi Yochanan asked Resh Lakish why he did not quote Rebbi Elazar the
Pasuk "Ani Chomah, ve'Shadai ka'Migdalos". Rebbi Yochanan explained ...
1. ... "Ani Chomah" - 'Zu Torah!'
(b) Resh Lakish explains the Pasuk like Rava, according to whom ...
2. ... "ve'Shadai ka'Migdalos - 'Eilu Talmidei-Chachamim' (who sustain
Yisrael with their merits, like a woman's breasts sustain her baby).
1. ... "Ani Chomah" refers to - 'Keneses Yisrael'.
2. ... "ve'Shadai ka'Migdalos" - to "Batei Kenesiyos u'Batei Medrashos".