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Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Bava Basra 96
BAVA BASRA 96 - dedicated by Rabbi and Mrs. Mordecai Kornfeld in honor of
the Bris of their son, Eliezer Aryeh, last Thursday. May Hashem grant that
we may raise him l'Torah l'Chupah ul'Ma'asim Tovim!
1) WHEN WE ARE CONCERNED FOR SPOILAGE
(a) Abaye (to Rav Yosef): What is your opinion?
(b) (Rav Yosef - Beraisa): Reuven left a barrel of wine, when
he tithes his wine, he declares that the tithes should
take effect on (the proper amount of) wine in the barrel.
Once, he checked the wine and found that it had become
vinegar (tithes taken from vinegar to exempt wine are
invalid). The first three days are definite (this will be
explained), past this is doubtful.
1. Question: What does this mean?
(c) Question: As whom does Rav Yosef hold?
2. Answer #1 (R. Yochanan): The first three days (after
it was last checked, and tasted and smelled like
wine), it was surely wine; after this, we are in
i. Question: What is the reason?
3. Version #1 - Answer #2 (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): The
last three days (before it was found to be vinegar)
it was surely vinegar; before this, we are in doubt.
ii. Answer: Wine spoils from the top; even if it
started souring immediately after the last
tasting, the smell would be like vinegar but
the taste would be like wine for three days -
this is still considered wine.
i. Question: What is the reason?
4. Version #2 - Answer #2 (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): The
first three days (after the previous checking, when
it tasted and smelled like wine), it was surely
wine; the last three days (before it was found to be
vinegar) it was surely vinegar; the intermediate
days, we are in doubt.
ii. Answer: (If it now tastes like vinegar, it
started to smell like vinegar at least three
days ago - R. Yehoshua ben Levi considers this
vinegar. If) wine spoils from the bottom,
perhaps it already spoiled when he last tasted
iii. Even if we say that it spoils from the top,
perhaps it immediately started to smell like
vinegar after the last tasting, this is
5. Question: If the first three days it was surely
wine, he must say that if it smells like vinegar but
tastes like wine, it is wine;
i. But he says that the last three days it was
surely vinegar - this implies that if it smells
like vinegar but tastes like wine, it is
6. Answer: (Really, he holds that if it smells like
vinegar but tastes like wine, it is wine;) the case
is, it was found to be very strong vinegar, it must
have tasted like vinegar for at least three days.
(d) (Rav Mari or Rav Zvid): Like R. Yochanan.
(e) (The other of Rav Mari and Rav Zvid): Like R. Yehoshua
(f) (Rav): Reuven sold a barrel of wine to Shimon, and it
became vinegar: if this was within three days of the
sale, it already started spoiling before the sale, the
sale is invalid;
1. If this was more than three days after the sale, it
started spoiling after the sale, the sale is valid.
(g) (Shmuel): Even if it spoiled within three days, this is
on account of Shimon's Mazel, the sale is valid.
2) TEMED (WINE FROM DREGS)
(h) Rav Yosef ruled like Rav in a case involving beer, and
like Shmuel in a case involving wine.
(i) The Halachah follows Shmuel.
(a) (Beraisa): One blesses sheha'Kol on beer of dates or
barley, and on dregs of wine;
(b) Others say, if the dregs have the taste of wine, he
blesses Borei Peri ha'Gafen.
(c) (Rabah and Rav Yosef): The Halachah does not follow
(d) (Rava): All agree that if one puts three measures of
water on the dregs and four measures of liquid exude (at
least one measure came from the dregs), it is considered
1. This is as Rava holds elsewhere, that one measure of
(raw) wine should be mixed with three measures of
(e) (Rava): All agree that if one puts three measures and
three exude, it is considered water;
1. They argue when he puts three, and three and a half
exude: Chachamim say that the same three measures of
water came out, and a half-measure from the dregs;
i. There is six times as much water as dreg-wine,
this is not considered wine.
2. Others say that two and a half measures of water
came out, and one measure from the dregs;
i. There is two and a half times as much water as
dreg-wine, this is considered wine.