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Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Avodah Zarah 64
AVODAH ZARAH 64 (14 Iyar) - this Daf has been dedicated by Hagaon Rav Yosef
Pearlman of London, England, l'Iluy Nishmas ha'Rabbani Reb Rephael David ben
Yosef Yitzchak Pearlman, whose passed away on Pesach Sheni (14 Iyar) 5758.
1) DECREASING DESPISED MATTERS
(a) Question: If a worker was hired to break a barrel of
Yayin Nesech, are the wages permitted?
2) MONEY A NOCHRI RECEIVED FOR IDOLATRY
1. Since the Yisrael wants the wine to exist until he
will (be paid to) dispose of it, it is forbidden;
(b) Answer (Rav Nachman): He will be blessed for breaking it
(the wages are permitted).
2. Or, perhaps we permit this, in order to decrease the
(c) Support (Beraisa): We may not dig with a Nochri in a
field in which he grows Kilayim, but we may uproot with
him, to decrease the despised matter.
(d) We are thinking that the Beraisa is like R. Akiva, who
says that one who keeps Kilayim (even if he did not plant
it, but he builds a fence to guard it) is lashed.
1. (Beraisa): One who removes weeds from Kilayim or
covers it with dirt (to help it grow) is lashed;
(e) Rejection: No, the Beraisa is Chachamim.
2. R. Akiva says, even one who keeps it.
3. Question: What is R. Akiva's reason?
4. Answer: It says "Sadcha Lo Sizra Kilayim" - one
might have thought, only sowing is forbidden;
i. "Kilayim Sadcha Lo" forbids even keeping it.
5. Culmination of support: Even though R. Akiva forbids
keeping Kilayim, he permits uprooting it to decrease
the despised matter.
(f) Question: If so, the Beraisa should permit keeping it,
this is a bigger Chidush than uprooting it!
(g) Answer: The case is, the Yisrael helps for free; it is
like R. Yehudah, who forbids giving a free gift to
1. For the sake of decreasing despised matter, he
(h) Support (for Rav Nachman): R. Yehudah is lenient (to
permit working for free for Nochrim) in order to decrease
despised matter, presumably R. Akiva also is lenient (to
permit uprooting Kilayim) in order to decrease the
(i) This cannot be challenged.
(a) Question: What is the law of money a Nochri received for
1. Does idolatry transfer its prohibition (to what it
is exchanged for) when a Nochri sells it, or not?
(b) Answer #1 (Rav Nachman): Presumably, it is permitted - we
learn from the following episode:
1. Some people who were about to convert came in front
of Rabah bar Avuha; he counseled them to sell all
their idolatry before converting.
(c) Rejection: Since they planned to convert, surely they
were Mevatel the idolatry before selling it (but if not,
it would transfer its prohibition).
2. Suggestion: This was because money a Nochri received
for idolatry is permitted (but if they would sell it
after converting, it would be forbidden)!
(d) Answer #2 (Beraisa): If a Nochri owed money to a Yisrael
and he sold idolatry or Yayin Nesech to get money to pay,
the money is permitted;
1. If he said 'Wait until I sell my idolatry or Yayin
Nesech, then I will pay you', it is forbidden.
(e) Question: What is the difference between the clauses?
(f) Answer (Rav Sheshes): In the latter clause, the Yisrael
is happy that the idolatry endures until it is sold.
(g) Question: Is it really true that if a Yisrael wants
idolatry to exist, it is forbidden?!
1. (Mishnah): If a convert and his Nochri brother
inherited their father, the convert can say 'You
take the idolatry and Yayin Nesech, I will take the
money and produce;
(h) Answer #1 (Rabah bar Ula): The Mishnah refers to idolatry
that retains its value even if broken (e.g. it is made of
gold or silver, therefore, the Yisrael does not care
whether or not it is broken).
2. If idolatry or Yayin Nesech already came to the
convert's premises, he cannot ask for something in
exchange for it.
1. Question: Regarding Yayin Nesech, how can we answer?
(i) Objection: Even though the Yisrael doesn't care if it
breaks, he wants the idolatry and Yayin Nesech around -
if it would be lost or stolen, his brother would demand
half of the money and produce!
2. Answer: The Yayin Nesech was absorbed in pottery
shards (even if they are broken, the wine can be
(j) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): (Mid'Oraisa, the convert does not
inherit; mid'Rabanan,) we are lenient, we allow him to
inherit and 'trade' with his brother (before the idolatry
comes to his premises), lest he will resent losing his
inheritance, renounce his conversion and return to live
like a Nochri.
(k) Support (Beraisa): We only allow this regarding
inheritance, but a Yisrael that was a partner with a
Nochri may not request a larger share of permitted things
in exchange for letting the Nochri keep the idolatry.
3) CAN A "GER TOSHAV" BE "MEVATEL" IDOLS?
(a) Question: Can a Ger Toshav Mevatel idolatry?
1. Do we say, only one who serves idolatry can Mevatel
(b) Answer (Rav Nachman): Presumably, since he does not serve
idolatry, he cannot Mevatel it.
2. Or, since he is like a Nochri (he only has seven
Mitzvos), he can Mevatel?
(c) Question (Beraisa): If a Yisrael found idolatry in the
market, before he takes it, he can tell a Nochri to
1. After he takes it, he cannot do so.
(d) Answer (and Answer #2 to Question (3)): Really, it means
whether or not he serves this idolatry;
2. (The first law is because) Chachamim taught that a
Nochri can Mevatel his or his colleague's idolatry,
whether or not he serves it.
3. Question: What does it mean 'whether or not he
i. Suggestion: Whether or not he serves *this*
idolatry (but in any case, he serves idolatry).
4. Answer #1: It means whether or not he serves
idolatry (and still, he can Mevatel) - likewise, a
Ger Toshav can Mevatel!
ii. Rejection: The Beraisa teaches this just before
this, 'he can Mevatel his or his colleague's
1. The previous clause teaches that he can Mevatel his
own idol or his colleague's (who serves the same
idolatry), this clause teaches that he can Mevatel
idols of a different idolatry.
(e) Question (Beraisa - R. Meir): A Ger Toshav is one who
accepted in front of three Chaverim not to serve
1. Chachamim say, he must accept the seven Mitzvos of
(f) Answer: No, it this teaches that he can give permission
or Mevatel his premises (allow others to enter his
property, to enable an Eiruv to permit carrying in a
2. Others say, he must accept all the Mitzvos, except
for the prohibition to eat Neveilos.
3. A Yisrael may leave a Ger Toshav alone with wine in
the Yisrael's store for a short time, even if the
city is mostly Nochrim;
i. He may not deposit wine by him for a long time,
even if the city is mostly Yisraelim.
4. The oil of a Ger Toshav is like his wine.
5. Objection: This implies that we are stringent to
forbid benefit from his oil - this is unreasonable
(people do not Menasech oil - at most, it should be
forbidden to eat, as we decreed about bread and
cooked foods of Nochrim)!
6. Correction: The wine of a Ger Toshav is like his oil
(it is forbidden to drink it, one may benefit from
7. In all other respects, he is like a Nochri.
i. Version #1: R. Shimon says, his wine is Yayin
8. Suggestion: 'In all other respects, he is like a
Nochri' - this teaches that he can Mevatel idolatry!
ii. Version #2: R. Shimon says, it is permitted to
drink his wine.
1. (Beraisa): If a Yisrael desecrates Shabbos in
private, but not in public, he can Mevatel his
2. If he desecrates Shabbos in public, he cannot
Mevatel his premises;
3. This is because (he is like a Nochri, and) Chachamim
said that a Yisrael can give permission or Mevatel
his premises, the only solution with a Nochri is if
the Yisraelim rent his premises;
i. Regarding a Yisrael, it suffices for him to say
'My premises are acquired or Batul to you',
this itself makes a Kinyan (regarding Eiruv).