POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Avodah Zarah 2
AVODAH ZARAH 2 - Marcia and Lee Weinblatt have dedicated this Daf
towards the full recovery of Mrs. Gerti (Gitl bas Golda)
Kornfeld, and in honor of the recent births of their
grandchildren: Gabriela Esther (to Jodi & Jacob Mugrabi),
Esther Rifka (to Tal & Aylon Brandwein), Mordechai (to Aliza &
Kenny Weinblatt) and Meir Yaakov (to Roni & Yehuda Blinder).
1) DEALINGS WITH OVDEI KOCHAVIM BEFORE THEIR FESTIVALS
(a) (Mishnah): The following are forbidden three days before
idolatrous festivals of idolators: to buy from or sell to
them (Rashi; R. Tam - to sell to them things that are
offered to idolatry), to lend to them or borrow from them
objects or money, to pay up or collect loans;
2) THE FINAL JUDGMENT OF THE "NOCHRIM"
(b) R. Yehudah permits collecting loans from them, for this
(c) Chachamim: Even though it pains them now, it gladdens
(d) (Gemara - Rav or Shmuel): The word in the Mishnah
denoting idolatrous festivals is Eideihen (with an
(e) (The other of Rav and Shmuel): It is Edeihen (with an
(f) Both texts are reasonable.
1. Eideihen (with an Aleph) is reasonable, as it says
"Karov Yom Eidam";
(g) Question: Why does the first opinion favor Eideihen?
2. Edeihen (with an Ayin) is reasonable, as it says
"Yitenu Edeihem v'Yitzdaku".
(h) Answer: That language is used to refer to their downfall.
(i) Question: Why does the second opinion favor Edeihen?
(j) Answer: Their downfall is on account of the Edus
(testimony) they will give against themselves.
(k) Objection: "Yitenu Edeihem v'Yitzdaku" refers to Yisrael!
1. (R. Yehoshua ben Levi):"Yitenu Edeihem v'Yitzdaku" -
Mitzvos that Yisrael do in this world testify for
them in the world to come;
(l) (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua): Rather, Edeihen is
reasonable, as it says "Yotzerei Fesel...v'Edeihen
2. "Va'Yomeru Emes" - this refers to the idolators.
(a) (R. Chanina bar Papa): In the future, Hash-m will hold a
Sefer Torah and offer reward to all who engaged in Torah;
all the Nochrim will come together; Hash-m will insist
that one nation come at a time.
(b) Question: Hash-m can judge them all together!
3) THE "NOCHRIM" GET ANOTHER CHANCE
(c) Answer: He wants that each nation should hear what He
says to them.
(d) Romi will be the first to be judged, because it is most
1. (R. Yochanan): "V'Seichul Kol Ara u'Sdushinah
v'Sadekinah" - this is Romi, whose fame (Rashi;
Maharsha - coinage) spans the entire world.
(e) Question: How do we know that the most important is first
to be judged?
(f) Answer: As Rav Chisda taught.
1. (Rav Chisda): The king enters for judgment before
the nation - "La'asos Mishpat Avdo u'Mishpat Amo
(g) Hash-m: How did you engage in Torah?
2. Question: What is the reason?
3. Answer #1: It is improper for the king to wait
outside until the nation is judged.
4. Answer #2: If the nation was judged first, perhaps
Hash-m would be angry when he judges the king (and
punish him for their sins).
(h) Romi: We established markets, built bathhouses, and made
money plentiful, all in order that Yisrael can engage in
(i) Hash-m: Fools! (True, I helped you to do all that in
order that Yisrael can engage in Torah, but) you intended
for your own benefit (therefore, you get no reward for
1. You established markets for your own benefit, even
to house harlots;
(j) Romi left dejected; Peras entered next, for they are
second in importance.
2. You built bathhouses to indulge yourselves;
3. The money is mine - "Li ha'Kesef v'Li ha'Zahav Ne'um
4. Can you say that you engaged in this (the Torah
given through Moshe)?!
1. (Rav Yosef): "Sinyanah Damyah l'Dov (the second
creature in Nebuchadnetzar's dream was like a bear)"
- this represents Peras, they are like bears in the
following ways: their eating and drinking habits,
their obesity, they are hairy, they are always
(k) Hash-m: How did you engage in Torah?
(l) Peras: We built bridges, conquered great cities, and made
many wars, all in order that Yisrael can engage in Torah.
(m) Hash-m: You intended for your own benefit!
1. You built bridges in order to collect taxes, you
conquered cities to conscript people to serve the
(n) Peras left dejected.
2. I made the wars - "Hash-m Ish Milchamah"
3. Can you say that you engaged in Torah?!
1. Question: Having seen Hash-m's answer to Romi, why
did they hope to get reward?
(o) Similarly, every nation enters hopeful of reward and is
dejected by Hash-m's rebuttal.
2. Answer: They thought that Romi gets no reward for
they destroyed the (second) Mikdash, but Peras will
be rewarded, for they helped built it (in the days
1. Question: Having seen Hash-m's answers to the
previous nations, why did they hope to get reward?
(p) Question: Why did R. Chanina only mention Romi and Peras?
2. Answer: Each thinks that it did not subjugate
Yisrael like the others.
(q) Answer: The kingdoms of Romi and Peras will endure until
(a) The Nochrim: Will You say that You offered us the Torah
and we refused it?!
(b) Objection: Indeed, He did!
1. "Hash-m mi'Sinai Ba v'Zarach mi'Se'ir Lamo"; it also
says "Eloka mi'Teiman Yavo (v'Kadosh me'Har Paran)";
(c) Correction: Rather, the Nochrim ask, will You say that we
accepted the Torah and did not fulfill it?!
2. Question: Why was Hash-m in Se'ir (Esav's
inheritance) and Paran (where Yishmaelim live)?
3. Answer (R. Yochanan): This teaches that Hash-m
offered the Torah to every nation, but only Yisrael
(d) Objection: That is self-incriminating (for refusing the
(e) Correction: Rather, they say 'Will You say that You held
a mountain over us (as You did for Yisrael) and we
1. (Rav Dimi bar Chama): "Va'Yitzyatzvu b'Sachtis
ha'Har" - Hash-m suspended the mountain over us like
a barrel, and said that if we do not accept the
Torah, we will be buried there.
(f) Hash-m: Because you did not observe the seven Mitzvos you
already had, I did not force you to accept the rest.